No, just most historians. There is not just one type of Christian. There are many.
The Bush Lies: "When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so."
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
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August 21st, 2003, 09:37 AM
Skeptic;
Did you bother to read about the history of Christianity?
Billy;
I told you before, I never read any articles you post.
Skeptic;
Christians have done far worse things than what you have just mentioned. Why aren't you outraged about the legacy of Christianity?
Billy;
That question was already answered a couple of times by other posters. I am concerned with what is going on in THIS century. Can we please stay current??????????
Skeptic;
In order to be consistent, I'd abandon my Christian faith, if I were you.
Billy;
If Christians were doing what the Muslims are doing, I would. But being a Christian has nothing to do with religion, so the comparison is moot.
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August 21st, 2003, 09:44 AM
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I love America! That's why I'm so outraged that commies like you ignore suicide bombing after suicide bombing after suicide bombing like they never happened. You could be next.
Only if he lives in Israel; that seems to be where most of the suicide bombings of late have been.
Fact is, it ain't happening here in the US; no belt-bombers showing up at shopping malls, sporting events, and churches. Everybody was scared witless that that sort of foolishness would start happening in '01. It hasn't.
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August 21st, 2003, 09:51 AM
Gerald;
The Muslims don't have the means to wipe out Everybody Else, and that is unlikely to ever change,
Billy;
We still haven't found Saddam's WMD. Iran has a nuclear program and all sorts of WMD are missing from Russia.
Gerald;
because for every one glassy-eyed fanatic there are two or three who have walking-around sense, and know that pitching nukes, or germs or poison gas around is a Bad Idea.
Billy;
It's the '1 in 3' that I'm worried about.
Gerald;
OTOH, wiping out the Muslims (all 1 billion of them) will require the use of those very same weapons. There is no way around this.
Billy;
I don't WANT to wipe out all the muslims, it just seems to be heading in that direction. How do you separate the good ones from the rest?
Gerald;
I trust you can imagine the sorts of horrors that would be loosed in such a campaign, because you don't strike me as the "I'll destroy the world before I'll let you conquer it" type...
Billy;
I don't want to do either. I just want to be left alone in certain safety from terrorism.
Originally posted by BillyBob
Don't discount it. These guys will do whatever they can. It's far from over with.
It will NEVER be over with! Terrorism, in one form or another, domestic or international, has been around for a long time, and will always exist. The key to diminishing its frequency is to minimize the conditions that promote it. Just like crime in America. You will never stop crime by simply locking up criminals or executing them! More keep springing up because the conditions that foster criminal behavior does not change. Israel and the Palestinians have to come to an agreement. (Israel had been the more stubborn one) And all sides must have a forum to sit together and work out their differences.
Bush's illegal full-scale preemptive invasion of Iraq, in reality, had nothing to do with the "war on terrorism", did nothing to diminish international terrorism, and increased the threat of terrorism by outraging many militant groups around the world! Bush's actions have fueled the fire of terrorism. Therefore, I would not be surprised to see more 9/11-type attacks here and around the world. Get Bush out of office, and the threat will decrease. But, terrorism will never totally go away, as there will always be some crazies who are not happy with things.
The Bush Lies: "When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so."
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
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August 21st, 2003, 10:09 AM
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Don't discount it. These guys will do whatever they can. It's far from over with.
Ah, yes: "Beware, for The Enemy is everywhere! Be alert! Trust no one! Keep your sidearm handy! He could be the man next door. He could be the little old lady down the block. He could be the convenience store clerk. He could be the postman. He could be the garbage collector. He could be the plumber. He could be the UPS or the FedEx man. He could be a police officer. He could be your best friend. He could be your cousin. He could be your brother. Beware! Beware!"
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I don't want to do either. I just want to be left alone in certain safety from terrorism.
If the "war on terrorism" continues to be waged in the way it has, and if it is supposed to continue until we have "certain safety from terrorism", then the world will be a war zone for a centuries to come.
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August 21st, 2003, 10:27 AM
Wholearmor, How can I lighten up when I see my country going down the path to certain destruction. How can I lighten up when I see my brethren blindly supporting a terrorist organization for worse than the Taleban. Christians are blindly supporting the Democrats and Republicans and are constantly being played like that proverbial bass fiddle. What concerns me more than that is that it seems most Christians could care less. I love my country and my brethren and I will do what I can to save both.
Yes, Jesus is the way the truth and the life and your knowledge of Him is not in question by me. But your accepted knowledge of what is taking place is. As is BB"s and others. I seek for you to question what is being told to you and your blind acceptance of the official story line given out by the supposed liberals and conservatives. If we buy into ether dogma blindly we have lost our way. Liberalism and conservatism are two legs on the same beast. The beast that seeks to destroy us. I cannot lighten up. Your life may be at stake and you are precious to me.
Galatians 5:13 ¶For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
The borrower is slave to the linder. What makes this country think it is rich and free?
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August 21st, 2003, 10:31 AM
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wholearmor, How can I lighten up when I see my country going down the path to certain destruction. How can I lighten up when I see my brethren blindly supporting a terrorist organization for worse than the Taleban. Christians are blindly supporting the Democrats and Republicans and are constantly being played like that proverbial base fiddle. What concerns me more than that is that it seems most Christians could care less. I love my country and my brethren and I will do what I can to save both.
Yes, Jesus is the way the truth and the life and your knowledge of Him is not in question by me. But your accepted knowledge of what is taking place is. As is BB"s and others. I seek for you to question what is being told to you and your blind acceptance of the official story line given out by the supposed liberals and conservatives. If we buy into ether dogma blindly we have lost our way. Liberalism and conservatism are two legs on the same beast. The beast that seeks to destroy us. I cannot lighten up. Your life may be at stake and you are precious to me.
The TRUTH is, no one knows what's going on for 100% sure, e4e. Making sweeping statements saying someone doesn't know the truth is not a very intelligent thing to do, IMHO.
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August 21st, 2003, 10:41 AM
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Billy; I just want to be left alone in certain safety from terrorism.
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e4e ----Your desire for safety may result in the loss of your liberty. Is your certain safety worth the price you may have to pay to obtain it? I think not!
Galatians 5:13 ¶For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
The borrower is slave to the linder. What makes this country think it is rich and free?