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August 22nd, 2003, 02:15 PM
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Geral you sneaky little bugger Did I say or otherwise imply that we needed to drop an Atom bomb on Stalin to as you said "wipe the floor with him. don't tell me you REALLY belive I was implying that?
I'm just askin'. I have many talents, but mind-reading is not among them...
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August 22nd, 2003, 02:20 PM
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I agreed when "we could have" you don't even have me on record as saying we should have. It would be fair to say that having the A bomb was a tacical advantage.
I believe that in order to win against the Red Army at that time, use of the atom bomb would have been required. A conventional war would've dragged on for years.
And you mustn't forget General Winter; he stopped Napoleon and he stopped Hitler.
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Originally posted by Gerald
I'm just askin'. I have many talents, but mind-reading is not among them...
oops I misread
this is what I thought I read
But, you would have used the atom bomb to "get" Stalin simply because he caused millions of his own people to starve to death
sorry for the missunderstanding
BTW I don't advocate nukes as the solution for starvation
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Skeptic;
A sniper is shooting out a window killing women ,children and spoted owls (just in case you're a PETA member) A cop returns fire and the bulllit goes though the bad guy and kills a child. Who is guilty for killing the child?
A: the sniper
B: the cop
C:PETA
In the State of Texas, any reasonable consequence that follows from a peace officers attempt to stop a felony is charged to the bad guy. Idea being, if that sniper hadn't started all this mess, the child would not have been in any risk to begin with.
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Originally posted by Gerald
I believe that in order to win against the Red Army at that time, use of the atom bomb would have been required. A conventional war would've dragged on for years.
And you mustn't forget General Winter; he stopped Napoleon and he stopped Hitler.
I do know that Genral Patton belived we coud and should defeat Stalin but what kind of expert was he? Patton didn't he have somthing to do with stoping Hitler also? I could be wrong.
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August 22nd, 2003, 03:18 PM
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I do know that Genral Patton belived we coud and should defeat Stalin but what kind of expert was he? Patton didn't he have somthing to do with stoping Hitler also? I could be wrong.
Actually, both Patton and MacArthur were for continuing the war in order to take out the Soviets.
Patton is reputed to have said something to the effect of "Give me 24 hours and I'll make it look like the Russians started it."
Patton was also wise enough to know the difference between the forests of Germany and the steppes of Russia.
There is a reason for the old saying "Never start a land war in Asia"...
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And the evidence suggests that our President lied about, distorted and exaggerated the threat Saddam posed to America! As I've said before, Bush claimed Iraq was in the process of producing and stockpiling tons chemical and biological weapons; that these weapons could be sprayed from unmanned planes over U.S. cities; and that Iraq was "six months away" from building a nuclear weapon, saying "I don't know what more evidence we need." Bush declared that not acting quickly against Iraq to disarm them of these weapons would be "suicidal." By often mentioning both in the same breath, Bush continued to implicate Iraq and 9/11, even though there has never been evidence that Saddam had anything to with the 9/11 attacks. Connect the dots, people!! You pseudo-patriots have been duped by your President and the Pentagon! [/quote]
the evidence suggests that you just lied about what the President said I defy you to show me a quote saying Iraq was "six months away" from building a nuclear weapon, that you didn't suck out of your thumb
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Indifference does not equal hatred. I'm also indifferent to the starving children in sub-Saharan Africa; I suppose you'll tell me I hate them, too?
not dwelling on a problem because you can't fix all of the worlds problems is ok and healthy. Indifference toward starving children or rape victoms of any land, now that is twisted!!!
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August 23rd, 2003, 06:29 AM
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yes iv'e heard that one......it was quoted it the move THE PRINCESS BRIDE ....good movie.... directed by famos commie rob riener
You realize, of course, that the notion is older than that, yes?
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August 23rd, 2003, 06:31 AM
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not dwelling on a problem because you can't fix all of the worlds problems is ok and healthy. Indifference toward starving children or rape victoms of any land, now that is twisted!!!
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Iraq was not sponsoring those terrorists who posed a threat to America!
Billy;
I have demomnstrated a multitude of times how Saddam was a threat to America and our allies. You have NEVER refuted them and yet you continue to claim that Saddam was not a threat and that we should not have gone to Iraq. It's getting old, Skeptic.
You will not win this argument by attrition, although that is your best chance, all you really end up doing is denying the obvious.
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Skeptic;
Iraq was not sponsoring those terrorists who posed a threat to America!
Billy;
I have demomnstrated a multitude of times how Saddam was a threat to America and our allies.
No, you have not. Likewise, Bush and his administration have not demonstrated to the American people clear and convincing evidence that Saddam was a threat to America and our allies. Bush attempted to convince us with lies, distortions and exaggerations, but this has worked only for the most gullible (which, unfortunately, is far to many of you).
The Bush Lies: "When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so."
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."
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Originally posted by Gerald
You realize, of course, that the notion is older than that, yes?
Do you doubt its validity?
I have no real idea but as I said before Patton thought it was a good idea...... My point that you were to dense to get was that he probably knew more about it than I do. let me go out on a limb and suggest he might have even known more about it than Gerald
Did I say or otherwise imply that we needed to drop an Atom bomb on Stalin to as you said "wipe the floor with him. don't tell me you REALLY belive I was implying that?
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