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Skeptic;
Iraq was not sponsoring those terrorists who posed a threat to America!
Terrorism is a threat to the world....but you won't admit that!!!
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
Originally posted by Skeptic
No, you have not. Likewise, Bush and his administration have not demonstrated to the American people clear and convincing evidence that Saddam was a threat to America and our allies. Bush attempted to convince us with lies, distortions and exaggerations, but this has worked only for the most gullible (which, unfortunately, is far to many of you).
I'm with Billy it is you and your friends in the liberal press who are distoring by paraphrasing the case set out by the Bush administration to make it look like they said things they never said.
Deny this: IF we had not gone to war the sons of Saddam would still be raping and murdering!!! BUT YOU DON'T GIVE A RAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ .....You will of coarse respond by saying "thousands were killed"
Yes I know but he was allready killing thousands without our help. The idea is we put a system in place that give the people of Iraq a chance for the killing to stop. It does ,however, take time!!!
Do you think the Germany just ran like a well oiled machine the first year after WW 2
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
I'm with Billy it is you and your friends in the liberal press who are distoring by paraphrasing the case set out by the Bush administration to make it look like they said things they never said.
Deny this: IF we had not gone to war the sons of Saddam would still be raping and murdering!!! BUT YOU DON'T GIVE A RAT ABOUT THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ .....You will of coarse respond by saying "thousands were killed"
Yes I know but he was allready killing thousands without our help. The idea is we put a system in place that give the people of Iraq a chance for the killing to stop. It does ,however, take time!!!
Do you think the Germany just ran like a well oiled machine the first year after WW 2
What I don't understand is, what is the motive behind Bush wanting to "free the people of Iraq." Even if that's his truest intentions, why? I can easily understand a missionary going into Iraq to spread the Gospel. I don't understand our government going into Iraq to spread democracy. Sure Saddam and his regime is evil, but he isn't a U.S. citizen and is not under our law. What the U.S. has done is use its world super power status to rid one country of a government system different from ours. There are plenty of other countries with different forms of government. Why Iraq? Has God put a special place in Bush's heart for the people of Iraq? I find that absurd. It seems that Bush dodges bullets by the "Where are the WMDs press" by hiding under his "We gotta help the poor Iraqis" umbrella. Why liberate the Iraqis? Why them? Why now? Too me, the whole situation is clouded by so much politics, its impossible to see a clear picture (I think I will end this post with that thought.) By the way, don't label me a war protester, I am not. Don't label me anti-democracy, I am not. As a tax-paying U.S. citizen, I just don't believe Bush has given me a clear reason, a clear purpose, a clear plan of action regarding Iraq.
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August 23rd, 2003, 06:54 PM
Saddam was a terrorist. He harbored terrorists. He trained terrorists. He funded terrorists. He rewarded the families of terrorists. He had developed WMD for 20 years and he ignored a couple dozen UN Resolutions to come clean.
Originally posted by BillyBob
Saddam was a terrorist. He harbored terrorists. He trained terrorists. He funded terrorists. He rewarded the families of terrorists. He had developed WMD for 20 years and he ignored a couple dozen UN Resolutions to come clean.
His 'departure' was way overdue.
To put it that way -- that the war on Iraq was purely defense, then 3 cheers for Prez. Bush. Good job, Bush. He defended his country.
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Freeing the Iraqi's was a nice bonus!!!!!!
Who gives a care about the stupid Iraqis, most of them hate us. If you think about, most can be called terrorists. If you really think about it...WE JUST GAVE A BUNCH OF TERRORISTS FREEDOM!!!
And about Saddam ignoring the U.N., I could care less what the U.N. thinks or says. (I don't mind being called Anti-U.N. / Anti-world govt.) Not that it justifies Saddam, just felt like lashing out on the U.N.
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I'm with you, Lucky.
CBS took a poll and 66% of Iraqi's polled were in favor of the US liberation. This was a month ago before they knew that Saddam's sons were dead and realized that if Saddam came back to power, they might be punished for declaring their support for the US. Can you imagine what the real number is if the Iraqi's were sure that they could speak freely without ramifications?
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Originally posted by BillyBob
I'm with you, Lucky.
CBS took a poll and 66% of Iraqi's polled were in favor of the US liberation. This was a month ago before they knew that Saddam's sons were dead and realized that if Saddam came back to power, they might be punished for declaring their support for the US. Can you imagine what the real number is if the Iraqi's were sure that they could speak freely without ramifications?
Keep in mind that CBS has not been all that Bush freindly
Delmar
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
The Tigris was found to be polluted with two dual-use agents that could have potentially been used in the manufacture of mustard gas and other chemical weapons, but they could also have been used in the manufacture of numerous things, including fertilizer and household chemicals. What they were originally intended for is conjecture.
As for the vans, there were a lot of theories floating around about what they were for, but no facts. Proponents of the war automatically proposed that they must have been used for chemical weapons transport. Truth is, they don't know what they were used for. Could've as easily been hauling televisions to the local Wal Mart (or whatever)
. The Administration claimed they knew what the vans were for, but the CIA disclaimed their pronouncements as overzealous.
the vans in question were mobile chemical labs and we can only assume what they were used for....but it would be a lot easyer and cheaper to have a lab in a statioary building..... unless you wanted to hide something.
the CIA as awhole did NOT disclaim their pronouncements as overzealous. One mid level bauracrat with a political agenda says they are not sure what the van is used for and it is reported that "the CIA says its NOT TRUE"
Last edited by Delmar; August 23rd, 2003 at 08:24 PM.