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January 3rd, 2012, 02:49 AM

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I would like to see the death penalty for child molesters. They ruin the lives of their victims. Child molestation is a despicable crime.
I once heard my mother and aunt (my mother is 89) talk about molestation from fathers to daughters.

They both agreed it was just the way it was and they didn't see the harm in it.

My grandmother got married at 16 (she would now be 139 years old) to get away from her father and she was a thinker like me.......... She told her husband, my grandfather, if he EVER touched one of their daughters she would kill him and he never did. That was the ONLY thing she ever insisted on in their marriage and he listened. He didn't molest his daughters but went after their friends instead.

She was a Christian her entire life and allowed my grandfather to be the boss.. He wouldn't work but divorce was unthinkable for a woman back then. She had her last child when she was 48 years old, just 7 years younger than I am now.

This was the way of the world not so long ago.

People seem to be so ignorant of the way it used to be before women had rights and yet I've had women put me down for being a feminist on this forum.

You do not know history obviously.

Men used to do whatever they pleased at one time and women couldn't serve on a jury nor be a judge 100 years ago and even less than that in time. And we all know when women were allowed to vote, it wasn't that long ago.

All of you women that dislike me for my feminist thoughts don't know history.

Feminism has been given a terrible reputation by the extremist feminists.





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January 3rd, 2012, 03:01 AM

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I've been taught well.
Stripe, I really respect your humility. You could have taken the credit for your post, but you gave it to someone else. That is an awesome thing to do, and I would imagine that a man of your wisdom and spiritual maturity ALSO gives credit to Jesus Christ for everything!! I'm glad to call you friend and brother.





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Thats a pretty explicit description... not quite reportable, but wow. I mean men tapping females DOES lead to babies... men tapping men is just and leads to really bad cowboy movies...
What does having a baby have to do with child molestation? A girl can not get pregnant before puberty. *confused here* The fact that a girl doesn't get pregnant has nothing to do with this.

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"Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill. For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled."- Jesus

What gives??
Jesus didn't fulfill all the laws of the O.T. right?

He did things on the Sabbath that the Jews didn't like. That's one example. He did many things that the Jews didn't like. Am I not correct?

I am not a Jew, I am a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ. I don't believe like the old Jews, I believe what I've read in the N.T.





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January 3rd, 2012, 03:20 AM

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Stripe, I really respect your humility. You could have taken the credit for your post, but you gave it to someone else. That is an awesome thing to do, and I would imagine that a man of your wisdom and spiritual maturity ALSO gives credit to Jesus Christ for everything!! I'm glad to call you friend and brother.
You fit in well on this forum. I don't care if I do or do not. I know that's become very obvious on this forum. I'm an independent thinker. Kind of like Jesus was in his time.

I'm growing as a Christian, because I'm reading and learning. I don't care about rep points. I care about what God knows about my heart.

Hurray for you........you and stripe can be good buddies on earth.

Because of those horrid suffragettes women finally were able to vote on August 26, 1920. Not even 100 years ago. You poor men that have suffered for so long in this life.





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January 3rd, 2012, 03:37 AM

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What does having a baby have to do with child molestation? A girl can not get pregnant before puberty. *confused here* The fact that a girl doesn't get pregnant has nothing to do with this.
It was a light hearted joke at your misspelling of the word "taping". The extra p made it rather funny to me.



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Jesus didn't fulfill all the laws of the O.T. right?

He did things on the Sabbath that the Jews didn't like. That's one example. He did many things that the Jews didn't like. Am I not correct?

I am not a Jew, I am a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ. I don't believe like the old Jews, I believe what I've read in the N.T.
Point is, Jesus said not one jot or tittle would pass from the law until all is fulfilled... is it "all" fulfilled? You said you were with Jesus, not the OT. Jesus wasn't against the OT as you are saying...


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You fit in well on this forum.
Hmmm, yes, because I'm soooo tolerant of sodomy. Which is the norm, apparently.

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I'm growing as a Christian, because I'm reading and learning. I care about what God knows about my heart.
Great!! I hope you continue to do so!

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I don't care about rep points.
Then quit crying about Nick and whining about folks "hating" you for being a feminist...


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Correction, brothers in Christ.


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You poor men that have suffered for so long in this life.
I must have missed my post whining about how much I've suffered... can you post a link for me? Thanks!!





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January 3rd, 2012, 08:01 AM

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Your conceit astounds me sometimes.
I credit those who came before me and you call me conceited? You do know what that word means, don't you?
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Stripe, I really respect your humility. You could have taken the credit for your post, but you gave it to someone else. That is an awesome thing to do, and I would imagine that a man of your wisdom and spiritual maturity ALSO gives credit to Jesus Christ for everything!! I'm glad to call you friend and brother.


If only more were willing to put forth the truth so that it might be learnt.





Where is the evidence for a global flood?
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January 3rd, 2012, 11:48 AM

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LOL...aren't you a proponent of Christian homeschooling Jordan?

I'll go with public education anyday over yours.
I make an argument about homosexuality and your response is, "You're homeschooled, what do you know?"

That seems like a pretty solid argument, given that Abraham Lincoln was also a proponent of Christian homeschooling.



   
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I make an argument about homosexuality and your response is, "You're homeschooled, what do you know?"

That seems like a pretty solid argument, given that Abraham Lincoln was also a proponent of Christian homeschooling.
Public education: http://www.angelfire.com/la2/prophet...onamerica.html

Homosexuality and punishment: http://lasalettejourney.blogspot.com...sexuality.html

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Oh my garsh! A man tapping males.

That's inexcusable but men have been tapping females since the beginning.

Yet you hate feminists. I'm a humanist, not a feminist. Again, I say, you are a misogynist and concentrate on what's been done wrong to males ONLY against their will.

I don't want anyone executed. I am with Jesus on this one. He didn't have the Samaritan woman stoned, he told her to go and sin no more.

I am with Jesus, not with the O.T. about killing people. I used to be pro-death penalty but I think and read and have changed. I'm one of those rare right-wingers that know it's not a deterrent, it's nothing more than getting someone back for their wrong-doings.

Give someone time to think or re-think what's gone on in their minds and life by letting them live in prison.

It costs more money to have someone executed anyway so from a pragmatic standpoint, think about that.

Not everyone thinks they have all their poop in one pile at 38 like you do. Your remind me of a teenager that thinks they know everything.

Neg rep me, I told you my one neg rep from you is negated every time by positive reps by the large majority here.

We're suppose to LOVE. Agape love. You hate.

You're 2 years older than my eldest son..........you are a child to me in your brain.

At your age I was so messed up, I pray you will THINK. But maybe you're unable to do so.
Shut up.

We're sick of your victim mentality and your crying "misogyny," like the boy who cried "wolf."

Just shut up.

Your coming in here to suggest that we don't care when this stuff happens to females just because a thread was started to discuss a specific instance when it happened to males puts you in line with The Horn and all his ridiculous claims that we only care about the babies before they're born. Your whining is just as stupid and full of lies as his.

Seriously, just shut your mouth.





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January 3rd, 2012, 07:06 PM

Not wholley related, but has come up in this thread; I don't understand how anyone can argue that pedophilia is not a mental illness. The idea that someone can look at a child sexually and be totally sane and healthy is just... nuts. Seriously. Are some of you thinking through what you're saying? This is not to say I think it excuses action. One may be messed up enough to feel lust for a child, but just like lust for anything else, one chooses whether to act on it or not. And acting on it is unforgivable.

Also, a question for those who think it should be DP for all child molesters and believe they cannot be treated/rehabilitated, just because I am curious about the answer; if a person approached a psychiatrist/ER dr/cop/friend/anyone and said that they were having sexual feelings and thoughts about/towards children and needed help, would they deserve the DP to you? In the scenario, the person has never touched a child and does not want to act on their feelings of lust, but is nonetheless a pedophile (sexually attracted to kids).



   
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Not wholley related, but has come up in this thread; I don't understand how anyone can argue that pedophilia is not a mental illness. The idea that someone can look at a child sexually and be totally sane and healthy is just... nuts. Seriously. Are some of you thinking through what you're saying? This is not to say I think it excuses action. One may be messed up enough to feel lust for a child, but just like lust for anything else, one chooses whether to act on it or not. And acting on it is unforgivable.
It depends on whether one thinks mental illness is a thing. One may believe that minds can be unsound, but does not believe there is such a thing as mental illness as defined by modern psychology/psychiatry.

Though I too wonder how anyone who believes mental illness is a thing can believe pederasty in any form does not qualify. And anyone who believes mental illness is not a real thing, but an unsound mind is then I also wonder how one could think it was not a condition of an unsound mind. However I do not believe I have ever come across anyone who purports the latter; all who believe the mind can be unsound but that it is not an illness at least believe pederasty is a condition of an unsound mind.

I also wonder how anyone can see homosexuality and think it is not a condition of an unsound mind; that it is normal.

[/quote]Also, a question for those who think it should be DP for all child molesters and believe they cannot be treated/rehabilitated, just because I am curious about the answer; if a person approached a psychiatrist/ER dr/cop/friend/anyone and said that they were having sexual feelings and thoughts about/towards children and needed help, would they deserve the DP to you? In the scenario, the person has never touched a child and does not want to act on their feelings of lust, but is nonetheless a pedophile (sexually attracted to kids).[/quote]
Just as one who desires to commit murder, rape, incest, etc. does not deserve the death penalty if they have not acted upon those desires.

One is not a pedophile, by definition, until they have actually committed a sexual act upon a child. Before that they are only pederasts.





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January 3rd, 2012, 07:20 PM

That's not the definition.

Pederast is an adult who has sexual relations with a male child.

Pedophile is an adult who has sexual attraction to children (male or female).

Where are you getting your definitions from? Are you just making them up? :/



   
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