[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by `Love.

Lets go down that list.

Yes, lets.

Homosexuality has not caused even one single disease in the history of the Earth. It is unable to do so.

I doubt that even scientists know how AIDS was "caused", but the Centers for Disease Control does have evidence about who carries the disease:

"Gay and bisexual men — referred to in CDC surveillance systems as men who have sex with men (MSM)1 — of all races
continue to be the risk group most severely affected by HIV. CDC’s most recent data show that between 2006 and 2009,
the number of new infections that occur each year increased among young MSM..."
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/Newsroom/...NAL508COMP.pdf

Now if you want to talk about another disease that is prevalent amongst homosexual men, anal cancer, it's pretty evident what the "cause" of that is (the anal sphincter muscle just wasn't meant to be abused).

Misery in correlation to something is a broad term, and besides God Himself puts Christians through misery all the time. (Job) In fact, some believe that misery is how Christians know they are on the right path. Finally, the only death homosexuality may have caused is fanatics like those on this board beating homosexuals to death because of who they love.

Excessively high rates of STD's, high rates of substance abuse, suicide, early death, etc., that kind of misery that comes with ignoring God's word.
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01B1

Sexual activity is what causes these things that you speak of. The sooner you learn to not turn on your brothers and sisters, and rather the media that promotes images of rampant sex, the sooner you'll end the actual problems in the world.

Immoral sexual activity, the topic of which this thread is all about.

[`Love.]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Yes, lets.



I doubt that even scientists know how AIDS was "caused", but the Centers for Disease Control does have evidence about who carries the disease:

"Gay and bisexual men — referred to in CDC surveillance systems as men who have sex with men (MSM)1 — of all races
continue to be the risk group most severely affected by HIV. CDC’s most recent data show that between 2006 and 2009,
the number of new infections that occur each year increased among young MSM..."
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/Newsroom/...NAL508COMP.pdf

Now if you want to talk about another disease that is prevalent amongst homosexual men, anal cancer, it's pretty evident what the "cause" of that is (the anal sphincter muscle just wasn't meant to be abused).



Excessively high rates of STD's, high rates of substance abuse, suicide, early death, etc., that kind of misery that comes with ignoring God's word.
http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=IS01B1



Immoral sexual activity, the topic of which this thread is all about.

As much as you wish they did, throwing empty statistics proves nothing. As I already said to the woman who is "smarter than all of us so she cannot gives us any proof", statistical evidence is pure correlation and therefore moot without solid proof.

If we were to separate gay men who do not have sexually active lifestyles and gay men who ALSO have sexually active lifestyles, you would see how stupid you are very quickly.

I have done research on gay media and sexual images are forced down the throats of homosexuals ad naseum. Many of them do not want to be a part of that community. You cannot make these ludicrous comments based purely on faith that all gay men are spreaders of AIDS and HIV. You are a fool to say so.

If you seem to be so smart with random statistics, tell me how to explain these?

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According to a recent study published by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in February 2011, “Although blacks make up only 13.6 percent of the U.S. population, they account for 50.3 percent of all diagnosed cases of HIV. Additionally, the rate of HIV diagnosis among black men is eight times that of whites and two times that of Hispanics, and the rate for black women is 19 times that of whites and four times that of Hispanics.”

According to a recent study conducted by the Institute on Assets and Social Policy (IASP) at Brandeis University, “The wealth disparity between white and black households has more than quadrupled, regardless of income bracket.” Predicated on economic data from 1984 to 2007, the IASP study indicated that the average white family in the sample group held around $95,000 more in assets than the average black family.

According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, “The racial composition of the US prison and jail population as of 2008 was 60.21% (African American (non-Hispanic), 20.29% Hispanic, 13.44% White American (non-Hispanic) , and 6.06% Other (American Indian, Alaska Native, Asian American, Native Hawaiian, Pacific Islander American, and Multiracial American).”

According to recent US Census Bureau data, “24.7% of all African-American live in poverty in comparison to 8.6% of all non-Hispanic White, 11.8% of all Asian-American and 23.2% of all Hispanic.” The Labor Department statistics still show the current unemployment rate among blacks hovering around 16 percent, although the economy as a whole has shown some improvement.
Relative to black on black crime, the most recent government statistics indicated that “43% of all murder victims in 2007 were African American, 93.1% of whom were killed were African Americans.”

According to the US Centers for Disease Control Health Disparities and Inequalities Report (Jan. 2011), “Black women and men have much higher coronary heart disease (CHD) death rates in the 45–74 age group than women and men of other races. A higher percentage of black women (37.9%) than white women (19.4%) died before age 75 as a result of CHD, as did black men (61.5%) compared with white men (41.5%). And, a higher percentage of black women (39%) died of stroke before age 75 compared with white women (17.3%) as did black men (60.7%) compared to white men (31.1%). “

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If gay men have a high rate of HIV and that makes them evil, then blacks having a high rate of HIV makes them...?

Please embarrass yourself no further.

[aCultureWarrior]

Originally Posted by `Love.

As much as you wish they did, throwing empty statistics proves nothing. As I already said to the woman who is "smarter than all of us so she cannot gives us any proof", statistical evidence is pure correlation and therefore moot without solid proof.

And here I thought the agency that monitors disease here in the United States would be "proof" enough.

But as usual, in order to convince a fag hag, one must hear it from a notable fag:

"April 2008

The head of a major homosexual group admitted for the first time that HIV/AIDS is “a gay disease,” but added that he believed victory for the full range of the homosexual agenda was inevitable.
Matt Foreman executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF, www.thetaskforce.org), the nation’s oldest gay rights group, made the statements at the organization’s national conference in February.
Foreman’s controversial statement about AIDS surprised even many of the conference attendees. He told them, “Folks, with 70% of the people in this country living with HIV being gay or bi(sexual), we cannot deny that HIV is a gay disease. We have to own that and face up to that.”
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Journal/stories.aspx?id=73945

If we were to separate gay men who do not have sexually active lifestyles and gay men who ALSO have sexually active lifestyles, you would see how stupid you are very quickly.

LOL...how about we make things simple:

"Separate" sodomite A from sodomite B, and there would be no sexually related disease period.

I have done research on gay media and sexual images are forced down the throats of homosexuals ad naseum. Many of them do not want to be a part of that community. You cannot make these ludicrous comments based purely on faith that all gay men are spreaders of AIDS and HIV. You are a fool to say so.

All homosexuals (the act of sex between members of the same gender) inherently partake in an immoral lifestyle. Even if they are lucky enough to not become infected with a deadly disease, or are affected by the other "goodies" that go with the lifestyle, they're a disease on a moral society. God created man and woman to procreate and have a family, homosexuality goes against God's word.

If you seem to be so smart with random statistics, tell me how to explain these?

If gay men have a high rate of HIV and that makes them evil, then blacks having a high rate of HIV makes them...?

Just as dead as the white homosexuals.

[Christ's Word]

Originally Posted by `Love.

If gay men have a high rate of HIV and that makes them evil, then blacks having a high rate of HIV makes them...?

Please embarrass yourself no further.

I have been talking to you Love, even though you insulted me and called me a man, and I read enough of your cow dung to consider stopping talking to you.

It is not having HIV that make them evil, it is their gay behavior that makes them an abomination to their Creator's original intent.

Please Love...ms. pseudo intellectual, give all of the evidence you have that a gay lifestyle enhances your life expectancy....lets hear it?

You have a lot to learn about sexual brokenness.

[Christ's Word]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

And here I thought the agency that monitors disease here in the United States would be "proof" enough.

But as usual, in order to convince a fag hag, one must hear it from a notable fag:

"April 2008

The head of a major homosexual group admitted for the first time that HIV/AIDS is “a gay disease,” but added that he believed victory for the full range of the homosexual agenda was inevitable.
Matt Foreman executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF, www.thetaskforce.org), the nation’s oldest gay rights group, made the statements at the organization’s national conference in February.
Foreman’s controversial statement about AIDS surprised even many of the conference attendees. He told them, “Folks, with 70% of the people in this country living with HIV being gay or bi(sexual), we cannot deny that HIV is a gay disease. We have to own that and face up to that.”
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Journal/stories.aspx?id=73945



LOL...how about we make things simple:

"Separate" sodomite A from sodomite B, and there would be no sexually related disease period.



All homosexuals (the act of sex between members of the same gender) inherently partake in an immoral lifestyle. Even if they are lucky enough to not become infected with a deadly disease, or are affected by the other "goodies" that go with the lifestyle, they're a disease on a moral society. God created man and woman to procreate and have a family, homosexuality goes against God's word.



Just as dead as the white homosexuals.

Love quote......"If gay men have a high rate of HIV and that makes them evil, then blacks having a high rate of HIV makes them...?"


aCulture Warrior quote, "Just as dead as the white homosexuals."


This has to be nominated for "Quote of the Year" !

[`Love.]

Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

And here I thought the agency that monitors disease here in the United States would be "proof" enough.

But as usual, in order to convince a fag hag, one must hear it from a notable fag:

"April 2008

The head of a major homosexual group admitted for the first time that HIV/AIDS is “a gay disease,” but added that he believed victory for the full range of the homosexual agenda was inevitable.
Matt Foreman executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force (NGLTF, www.thetaskforce.org), the nation’s oldest gay rights group, made the statements at the organization’s national conference in February.
Foreman’s controversial statement about AIDS surprised even many of the conference attendees. He told them, “Folks, with 70% of the people in this country living with HIV being gay or bi(sexual), we cannot deny that HIV is a gay disease. We have to own that and face up to that.”
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Journal/stories.aspx?id=73945



LOL...how about we make things simple:

"Separate" sodomite A from sodomite B, and there would be no sexually related disease period.



All homosexuals (the act of sex between members of the same gender) inherently partake in an immoral lifestyle. Even if they are lucky enough to not become infected with a deadly disease, or are affected by the other "goodies" that go with the lifestyle, they're a disease on a moral society. God created man and woman to procreate and have a family, homosexuality goes against God's word.



Just as dead as the white homosexuals.

So we go from correlational evidence to anecdotal evidence from some "head of the gays". I have to applaud you for your ability to play with words and not obviously insult an entire race with your small mind. However, it proved you are a hypocrite. When one group has a statistic, you translate it to show that the group is evil for its ways. Then when another group which you don't happen to hate has the same statistic, you change how it gets translated. How quaint. To be honest, with the mindset you're showing here, I wouldn't be surprised if you are racist too.

Originally Posted by Christ's Word

I have been talking to you Love, even though you insulted me and called me a man, and I read enough of your cow dung to consider stopping talking to you.

It is not having HIV that make them evil, it is their gay behavior that makes them an abomination to their Creator's original intent.

Please Love...ms. pseudo intellectual, give all of the evidence you have that a gay lifestyle enhances your life expectancy....lets hear it?

You have a lot to learn about sexual brokenness.

Yet you have no evidence that gay behavior is a culprit. This is getting old, isn't it dear?

[Christ's Word]

Originally Posted by `Love.

Yet you have no evidence that gay behavior is a culprit. This is getting old, isn't it dear?

You have not answered a single question that I have asked of you. I am sorry I wasted my time with someone so disingenuous. All you do is question and snipe without a shred of evidence to back your twisted claims. If you want to live that lifestyle, or already are, seek help. If you just want to defend that lifestyle, there are many gay websites and many liberal websites that will agree with your lies. You throw up false arguments about "level" of sexual activity and other smoke screens, without comparing honestly both gay and straight that are active. You could do us all a favor and just shut your naive trap. Living a gay life is a death sentence, the facts prove it, and you know it. All the liberal jabberjawing in the world won't change the actuary tables sweetie.

[Nick M]

I am glad they die of AIDS and will suffer in the lake of fire.

Psalm 58:10

I am ashamed of those in the Body of Christ that accept perversion by not rebuking it sharply.

[`Love.]

Originally Posted by Christ's Word

You have not answered a single question that I have asked of you. I am sorry I wasted my time with someone so disingenuous. All you do is question and snipe without a shred of evidence to back your twisted claims. If you want to live that lifestyle, or already are, seek help. If you just want to defend that lifestyle, there are many gay websites and many liberal websites that will agree with your lies. You throw up false arguments about "level" of sexual activity and other smoke screens, without comparing honestly both gay and straight that are active. You could do us all a favor and just shut your naive trap. Living a gay life is a death sentence, the facts prove it, and you know it. All the liberal jabberjawing in the world won't change the actuary tables sweetie.

You, miss, posted first your religious views of the subject. You then backed them up with no evidence and said you were so intelligent that you didn't need to provide any. Upon my logical questioning of wanting to hear why you view things this way, you failed to give any logical reason and played games with flowery words. Feel free to try and label me anything you like, which is yet ANOTHER argumentative fallacy. Really, are you going through a list of fallacies and trying to use each one?

Also, Nick M, you are a sick man. Are you familiar with the Westboro church?

[Christ's Word]

Originally Posted by `Love.

You, miss, posted first your religious views of the subject. You then backed them up with no evidence and said you were so intelligent that you didn't need to provide any. Upon my logical questioning of wanting to hear why you view things this way, you failed to give any logical reason and played games with flowery words. Feel free to try and label me anything you like, which is yet ANOTHER argumentative fallacy. Really, are you going through a list of fallacies and trying to use each one?

Also, Nick M, you are a sick man. Are you familiar with the Westboro church?

You need help. Plain and simple. I told you I am not going to pre-publish portions or data in my book, my publisher would be furious. If you had ever authored anything significant in your life, you would not even need an explanation for that. Amateur hour is over sweetie and you can continue to delude yourself as needed for pacification. Nothing you say is workable in the real world. Go get your doctorate, spend 30 years in the trenches working with broken people and then have an opinion. If you can't do that, then consider a career in Comedy, because the stupid bile that comes out of your mouth is cracking me up. As you were.

[`Love.]

Originally Posted by Christ's Word

You need help. Plain and simple. I told you I am not going to pre-publish portions or data in my book, my publisher would be furious. If you had ever authored anything significant in your life, you would not even need an explanation for that. Amateur hour is over sweetie and you can continue to delude yourself as needed for pacification. Nothing you say is workable in the real world. Go get your doctorate, spend 30 years in the trenches working with broken people and then have an opinion. If you can't do that, then consider a career in Comedy, because the stupid bile that comes out of your mouth is cracking me up. As you were.

If you can't share your work, then don't bother posting. All you are is a lot of insults and religious beliefs tied nicely in a bow. I wonder if you even let any of the broken people you worked with talk or if you just let them know how intelligent you were during your sessions.

[Christ's Word]

Originally Posted by `Love.

If you can't share your work, then don't bother posting. All you are is a lot of insults and religious beliefs tied nicely in a bow. I wonder if you even let any of the broken people you worked with talk or if you just let them know how intelligent you were during your sessions.

I shared some of the obvious conclusions of my work, but you were not interested because they don't fit neatly into your twisted little gay flower arrangement you call a world view, nor do they fit your complete ignorance of sexual brokenness. The proofs of those conclusions are over 300 pages of work, developed by spending over 30 years in the trenches helping broken people. You on the other hand don't appear broken, just a juvenile smart alec with a bent toward delusions of intellectual grandeur. There is a lot to know about the neuro-chemistry of addiction, and the neuro-chemistry of homosexuality. The more we learn, the more the two appear to be the similar.

Just so you don't have to wonder how someone actually helps someone in a therapy environment in the real world......Individual sessions usually last about 55 minutes, of which I typically talk less than 5 minutes, I ask a lot of questions, but mostly listen to the answers and take notes to analyze later. In group sessions that usually last over 2 hours with a break in the middle, I usually do some teaching up front followed by questions interlaced with interaction, then we have exercises to reveal some individual discovery and some group exercises followed with discussion. I want to thank you for once again assuming the insane.

[`Love.]

Originally Posted by Christ's Word

I shared some of the obvious conclusions of my work, but you were not interested because they don't fit neatly into your twisted little gay flower arrangement you call a world view, nor do they fit your complete ignorance of sexual brokenness. The proofs of those conclusions are over 300 pages of work, developed by spending over 30 years in the trenches helping broken people. You on the other hand don't appear broken, just a juvenile smart alec with a bent toward delusions of intellectual grandeur. There is a lot to know about the neuro-chemistry of addiction, and the neuro-chemistry of homosexuality. The more we learn, the more the two appear to be the similar.

Just so you don't have to wonder how someone actually helps someone in a therapy environment in the real world......Individual sessions usually last about 55 minutes, of which I typically talk less than 5 minutes, I ask a lot of questions, but mostly listen to the answers and take notes to analyze later. In group sessions that usually last over 2 hours with a break in the middle, I usually do some teaching up front followed by questions interlaced with interaction, then we have exercises to reveal some individual discovery and some group exercises followed with discussion. I want to thank you for once again assuming the insane.

So you've done some nice research, all done through the lens of your faith, and despite the time put into it you've yet to actually prove anything. Well, at least you got some opinions out of it.

[aCultureWarrior]

The question is: Is one perversion more acceptable because "consent" is used?

Does it make it any less morally wrong for adult homosexuals to partake in the act of sodomy just because they mutually agree to it, as opposed to an adult homosexual convincing a little boy that having sex with him is ok?

Both should be unlawful.

[Christ's Word]

Originally Posted by `Love.

So you've done some nice research, all done through the lens of your faith, and despite the time put into it you've yet to actually prove anything. Well, at least you got some opinions out of it.

Yet another dishonest assumption, the work is not published yet, so how would you know? Aren't you being a tad quick on the trigger sweetie?

"There is a lot to know about the neuro-chemistry of addiction, and the neuro-chemistry of homosexuality. The more we learn, the more the two appear to be the similar. "

Which in your case begs the question.....What is YOUR drug of choice?