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January 6th, 2012, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tambora
Cut military spending???
No way!!!!!
I want our soldiers to have the most up-to-date equipment there is.
I want it to out-gun and out-run anything anyone else has.
Some people want to hug the anger out of them.
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I want our soldiers to have the most up-to-date equipment there is.
I want it to out-gun and out-run anything anyone else has.
They can already do that ten times over. When is it going to be enough? At what point will you say it's time to cut back? My guess is never, because you're just spouting off mindless nonsense. But I could be wrong, I suppose.
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January 7th, 2012, 09:42 AM
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Cut military spending???
No way!!!!!
I want our soldiers to have the most up-to-date equipment there is.
I want it to out-gun and out-run anything anyone else has.
You can't get a good military by throwing money at it. Without some tight restrictions, you end up with the Pentagon spending $200 for hammers and thousand-dollar toilet seats.
Clinton cut a huge bite out of the budget for "smart bombs", and instead spent the remainder on retrofitting "dumb bombs" with smart technology. We ended up with more smart bombs, spending much less money. And that's why it was so easy to wipe out the Iraqi military forces.
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January 7th, 2012, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by vegascowboy
In yet another display of willfull ignorance, Comrad Obama says that we need to cut military spending to the tune of $3.7 Trillion dollars.
Army, Navy, Airforce, Marines.
He says that we will have a smaller, yet more effective military force.
Many are saying that, in a world in which our troops are often outnumbered 7 to 1, cuts are unwise.
Thoughts?
Do the proposed cuts make you feel less safe?
(I didn't want to duplicate a thread, but I couldn't find one on this topic. If it exists and I missed it, my apologies.)
What are you taking about neocon:? Obama seen what a few cheap box cutter could do to our entire defense system, plus a cave is alot cheaper to operate from.
I've seen military operations firsthand; and there is excess to be cut if necessary for the betterment of the country they serve. However, I'm sure that their combat efficiency won't be cut by this; just the amount of luxuries allotted to them. There is a balance to be found.
Before you judge someone, walk a mile in their shoes. That way, if it turns out they are right and get mad at you, they are a mile away and barefoot.
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January 7th, 2012, 06:09 PM
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I've seen military operations firsthand; and there is excess to be cut if necessary for the betterment of the country they serve. However, I'm sure that their combat efficiency won't be cut by this; just the amount of luxuries allotted to them. There is a balance to be found.
Luxuries? You've never seen military operations.
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January 7th, 2012, 06:55 PM
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Luxuries? You've never seen military operations.
I was at 2nd AF for a time. The base golf course once had to cut back on the number of greenskeepers during Carter's administration. And many officers had to start mowing their own lawns on base housing.
You can imagine the effect this had on preparedness.
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January 7th, 2012, 07:06 PM
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I was at 2nd AF for a time. The base golf course once had to cut back on the number of greenskeepers during Carter's administration. And many officers had to start mowing their own lawns on base housing.
You can imagine the effect this had on preparedness.
But close analysis of the Obama plan shows that he is in fact following in the footsteps of Republican foreign policy stalwarts Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan, and H.W. Bush. These presidents changed our strategy and reduced defense spending in real terms when the United States ended wars and /or was confronting budget problems. Moreover, the cuts in spending and manpower that Obama is proposing to support his new strategy are far less than his Republican predecessors.
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Going back to when Bob Gates was still secretary of defense, they started out talking about cuts of less than $100 billion over five years. At the meeting this week they talked about $487 billion over 10 years. But that’s against what the Pentagon would like to spend, not against what they’re spending now; and they had quite ambitious plans for increases. As President Obama pointed out, this new plan would basically slow the rate of increase. Given that we’re at the highest spending level since World War II, there shouldn’t be as much of an uproar as there has been in Congress. I think a lot of it is just turf wars protecting bureaucracies and contracts.
neocon:? Obama seen what a few cheap box cutter could do to our entire defense system, plus a cave is alot cheaper to operate from.
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