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What I mean by "subconcious" is the "unconcious mind" speculated about and studied in psychology and evidenced through neuroscientific research.
Do you agree that in the dictionary "subconscious" is a pyschology term?
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
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February 4th, 2012, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
Do you agree that in the dictionary "subconscious" is a pyschology term?
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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February 4th, 2012, 02:06 PM
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Obviously.
I don't know why Wikipedia disagrees.
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful."
2 Timothy 2:24
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February 6th, 2012, 04:23 PM
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Can you give an example of a choice that is not determined?
Then also can you give an example of a choice which is not made out of either internal or external influence/s?
No, because every choice is a combination of the two. Our nature and nurture affects the options that we generated at any given scenario. Our past experiences influence which option to choose. However, no past experience or hereditary tendency is enough to determine a choice. Humans have reason, creativity, emotion, and other factors that do not allow for a formula that can fully account for any choice.
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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February 6th, 2012, 04:50 PM
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No, because every choice is a combination of the two. Our nature and nurture affects the options that we generated at any given scenario. Our past experiences influence which option to choose. However, no past experience or hereditary tendency is enough to determine a choice. Humans have reason, creativity, emotion, and other factors that do not allow for a formula that can fully account for any choice.
Are you saying there is a cause within ourselves that cannot be measured or seen to be an effect of something else?
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
Slogan/motto:
"And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful."
2 Timothy 2:24
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February 7th, 2012, 08:09 AM
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Are you saying there is a cause within ourselves that cannot be measured or seen to be an effect of something else?
Not a cause within ourselves. Human consciousness is unlike any other metal capability of any other species on earth. It has not been able to be explained as just the sum of the brain's biological make up. Yet, freewill is derived from this level of consciousness. So I wouldn't say it is a cause, but an ability to make a choice that is not totally determined by outside or internal influences.
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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February 7th, 2012, 09:18 AM
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Not a cause within ourselves. Human consciousness is unlike any other metal capability of any other species on earth. It has not been able to be explained as just the sum of the brain's biological make up. Yet, freewill is derived from this level of consciousness. So I wouldn't say it is a cause, but an ability to make a choice that is not totally determined by outside or internal influences.
What do you mean by "consciousness"? Anyone who is awake is conscious.
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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February 7th, 2012, 07:41 PM
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Human consciousness is not merely being awake and functioning. It is being self-aware and self-reflective.
I am not an expert in this matters. Is the issue freewill or is it when is a person considered living?
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Scholarly discussion or Grenade lobbing: its your choice. I will give you as much respect as you give me.
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February 9th, 2012, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by COLA76
No, because every choice is a combination of the two. Our nature and nurture affects the options that we generated at any given scenario. Our past experiences influence which option to choose. However, no past experience or hereditary tendency is enough to determine a choice. Humans have reason, creativity, emotion, and other factors that do not allow for a formula that can fully account for any choice.
Actually there are many formulas. It depends on the area of the body and what senses were used for perception. This varies depending on the situation, and different areas of the brain are used depending which senses are involved in the perception activities, and then some common areas are shared for reasoning and decision making. As stated, there are histories and learned behaviors from past experiences that also factor in, or the absence of prior experience causes a different formula (pathways) for the brain to follow.
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