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The important thing is the rhythm. Always have rhythm in your shaking. Now a Manhattan you shake to fox-trot time, a Bronx to two-step time, a dry martini you always shake to waltz time.
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March 21st, 2012, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
Instead of replying to the post you ask a stupid question.
I have work to do, goodbye!
It's not a stupid question. It's trying to figure out exactly where you are coming from so we can further the discussion.
So do you believe the Godhead is eternal? Yes or no?
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The important thing is the rhythm. Always have rhythm in your shaking. Now a Manhattan you shake to fox-trot time, a Bronx to two-step time, a dry martini you always shake to waltz time.
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March 22nd, 2012, 06:21 AM
"The question arises why did God allow sin to enter into the world in the first place? God created Adam with a free will so that Adam could choose good or evil. To create a man so that he could not choose good or evil or to choose good only would make God unjust."
Will we be able to choose evil in heaven? Can God choose to do evil? And why does it make God unjust if we can only choose good?
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Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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March 24th, 2012, 12:28 PM
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"The question arises why did God allow sin to enter into the world in the first place? God created Adam with a free will so that Adam could choose good or evil. To create a man so that he could not choose good or evil or to choose good only would make God unjust."
Will we be able to choose evil in heaven? Can God choose to do evil? And why does it make God unjust if we can only choose good?
God created man in his own image.
Man like God has a free, will he can choose, reason and make decisions. He is not a mindless programed robot that Calvinist think that he is.
Yes, if God created a man that could not choose good or evil then God would be unjust. What he would have would be a robot.
It doesn't make God unjust if we choose good or evil. God is not involved in our decisions to do good or evil.
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The important thing is the rhythm. Always have rhythm in your shaking. Now a Manhattan you shake to fox-trot time, a Bronx to two-step time, a dry martini you always shake to waltz time.
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March 26th, 2012, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
God created man in his own image.
Man like God has a free, will he can choose, reason and make decisions. He is not a mindless programed robot that Calvinist think that he is.
Calvinists don't think man is a robot. Why do you feel the need to continue to lie about what we believe? I understand disagreeing, but lying? That's sin, you know.
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Yes, if God created a man that could not choose good or evil then God would be unjust. What he would have would be a robot.
Will we be able to choose good and evil in heaven? And if not, will we be robots?
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It doesn't make God unjust if we choose good or evil. God is not involved in our decisions to do good or evil.
You keep assuming your conclusion. You haven't said why God would be unjust if we couldn't choose evil. Please provide an explanation (which you can't. You will just repeat the same thing).
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Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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March 26th, 2012, 07:30 AM
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Calvinists don't think man is a robot. Why do you feel the need to continue to lie about what we believe? I understand disagreeing, but lying? That's sin, you know.
Will we be able to choose good and evil in heaven? And if not, will we be robots?
You keep assuming your conclusion. You haven't said why God would be unjust if we couldn't choose evil. Please provide an explanation (which you can't. You will just repeat the same thing).
I agree. Never said otherwise.
The Calvinist religion implys that man is a mindless programed robot that cannot think or make decisions for himself.
According to Calvinism some go to heaven without ever making a choice (a mindless programed robot)
Others are predestined to go to hell without making a choice (a mindless programed robot)
Since man does not have the ability to think and make choices, man is a mindless programed robot.
God has created man with a free will, because man has a free will and does have the ability to think and make choices God would be unjust to impose his will upon man.
No where in the Bible can you find a scripture where God imposes his will upon man. However God will and does judge sin. But as a general rule God allows man to do his own thing, even if it envolves sinning. A good example would be King David.
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The important thing is the rhythm. Always have rhythm in your shaking. Now a Manhattan you shake to fox-trot time, a Bronx to two-step time, a dry martini you always shake to waltz time.
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March 26th, 2012, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
The Calvinist religion implys that man is a mindless programed robot that cannot think or make decisions for himself.
More lies. How does it feel to KNOW you are lying to try to win an argument?
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According to Calvinism some go to heaven without ever making a choice (a mindless programed robot)
Lies.
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Others are predestined to go to hell without making a choice (a mindless programed robot)
Lies.
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Since man does not have the ability to think and make choices, man is a mindless programed robot.
Lies.
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God has created man with a free will, because man has a free will and does have the ability to think and make choices God would be unjust to impose his will upon man.
Every beat of your heart is God imposing His will.
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No where in the Bible can you find a scripture where God imposes his will upon man. However God will and does judge sin. But as a general rule God allows man to do his own thing, even if it envolves sinning. A good example would be King David.
Acts 2. this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men.
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Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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March 26th, 2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NickCharles
More lies. How does it feel to KNOW you are lying to try to win an argument?
Lies.
Lies.
Lies.
Every beat of your heart is God imposing His will.
Acts 2. this Jesus, delivered up according to the definite plan and foreknowledge of God, you crucified and killed by the hands of lawless men.
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One of your Calvinist brothers said that every blink of his eye was predestinated by God.
Now, you are saying every beat of my heart is predestinated by God. What if I am murdered does that mean God predestinated that also? Like I said before, you think that you are mindless programed robot that has no will or ability to make choices.
God created man as a free agent, he has the ability to think, make decisions, choose and make choices.
I don't think that God wants a bunch of mindless programed robots in heaven. What glory would that bring to him? Everybody obeys because they have been programed to? Everyboy accepts Christ because they have been programed to? What a dull bunch of robots you Calvinst are.
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The important thing is the rhythm. Always have rhythm in your shaking. Now a Manhattan you shake to fox-trot time, a Bronx to two-step time, a dry martini you always shake to waltz time.
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March 26th, 2012, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
One of your Calvinist brothers said that every blink of his eye was predestinated by God.
Now, you are saying every beat of my heart is predestinated by God.
Where did I say that? Please read what I say, and not what you think I said.
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What if I am murdered does that mean God predestinated that also?
No, but it was ordained. In other words, unless you think God is impotent and couldn't stop it, it was part of His will.
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Like I said before, you think that you are mindless programed robot that has no will or ability to make choices.
And since you keep repeating the same lie, I'm left to assume that you are a liar, and an unrepentant one at that.
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God created man as a free agent, he has the ability to think, make decisions, choose and make choices.
And I've never said anything to the contrary.
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I don't think that God wants a bunch of mindless programed robots in heaven. What glory would that bring to him?
Is it possible that us being new creations, without the burden of the flesh, will allow us to be without sin and yet not be robots? I certainly do.
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Everybody obeys because they have been programed to?
No, because they've been freed.
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Everyboy accepts Christ because they have been programed to?
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Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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March 27th, 2012, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NickCharles
Where did I say that? Please read what I say, and not what you think I said.
No, but it was ordained. In other words, unless you think God is impotent and couldn't stop it, it was part of His will.
And since you keep repeating the same lie, I'm left to assume that you are a liar, and an unrepentant one at that.
And I've never said anything to the contrary.
Is it possible that us being new creations, without the burden of the flesh, will allow us to be without sin and yet not be robots? I certainly do.
No, because they've been freed.
In heaven?
And what a demonstrable liar you are.
Were you predestinated to say that? Was that in your program?
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The important thing is the rhythm. Always have rhythm in your shaking. Now a Manhattan you shake to fox-trot time, a Bronx to two-step time, a dry martini you always shake to waltz time.
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March 27th, 2012, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
Were you predestinated to say that? Was that in your program?
Who am I talking to? Hello.
I guess since you realize that I've refuted all of your arguments, all you have left ate lies and childish insults. Sad.
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