[ebenz47037]

Originally Posted by krystyna

They are responsible for treating all posters fairly.

That can't be said here, GM.

Krys, I have a couple of things to tell you. Number one: I don't ban people because of their religious beliefs. When I banned you, it was because, in my opinion, you disrespected Knight. And, when you came back from that banning, you decided to disrespect me for having the nerve to call you on that disrespect. If I banned people because of differing religious beliefs, I would ban atheists, Mormons, JWs, and many others.

Number two: I don't believe that believing in or not believing in the trinity is a salvation issue. I won't go into detail about this.

Anyway, if you can quit being disrespectful to Knight and any other moderators, including myself, I won't give you an infraction. And, it's infraction points that determine how long you're banned.

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Originally Posted by krystyna

I didn't show disrespect to neither of them.

I can't mingle God's word.

The truth hurts, GM.

You have to be willing to compromise with people, especially those in authority...

[krystyna]

Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe

But, they don't have too. They do it because their "fair people"

Well, this is exactly the root of problem if I understand you correctly, GM.

They can't say that this is a Christian forum but muzzle God's word for the benefit of man made fables, to say the least.

Paul actually names it clearly in Gal 1:8-9.

Jesus also didn't mince his words.

[krystyna]

Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe

You have to play the game fairly. In this monopoly game, ebenz and Knight are the bankers in charge. Respect that, or pay the consequences...

I am not playing games here, GM.

I am pointing people to the imminent danger of losing the eternal life and being charged with crime of disallowing God's word to be spoken about without fear or intimidation.

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Originally Posted by krystyna

Well, this is exactly the root of problem if I understand you correctly, GM.

They can't say that this is a Christian forum but muzzle God's word for the benefit of man made fables, to say the least.

Paul actually names it clearly in Gal 1:8-9.

Jesus also didn't mince his words.

You'd best get over your craziness and listen to what ebenz just said to you. You have an opportunity to make "amends" and find a more subtle approach to sharing your beliefs...Ben Franklin once said; "A word to the wise is sufficient."

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I gotta go now K think about what I've said...

[krystyna]

Originally Posted by ebenz47037

Krys, I have a couple of things to tell you. Number one: I don't ban people because of their religious beliefs. When I banned you, it was because, in my opinion, you disrespected Knight. And, when you came back from that banning, you decided to disrespect me for having the nerve to call you on that disrespect. If I banned people because of differing religious beliefs, I would ban atheists, Mormons, JWs, and many others.

Number two: I don't believe that believing in or not believing in the trinity is a salvation issue. I won't go into detail about this.

Anyway, if you can quit being disrespectful to Knight and any other moderators, including myself, I won't give you an infraction. And, it's infraction points that determine how long you're banned.

Hi ebenz.

If you go back you may notice that some people here do as they please; call names, hijack threads, bully the true worshippers of the Father the only one true God making it impossible for them to survive here.

I have posted one of my bans for pointing to godrulz name calling jerzy and me.

Knight (or you. I have no way to tell because the bans come from Knight although you say that you banned me) remarked on this in PM that he has to protect those who have the truth (or something like that).

I hurt me and I wasn’t posting for very long time.

All I am doing is quoting from hundreds of God’s proof texts.

All I am having is bullying, name calling and calling me stupid or mentally retarded for not rejecting hundreds of God’s proof texts and accepting man made blasphemous stories instead.

You are in charge of this, ebenz.

You know about this, don’t you ebenz.

Do you think that you should demand respect for this?

The fact that you hold this position of responsibility is God’s will.

Do you really think that you do HIS will?

[krystyna]

Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe

You have to be willing to compromise with people, especially those in authority...

I did a lot, GM.

I suffered a lot.

There is time when you have to let it go, GM.

[krystyna]

Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe

You'd best get over your craziness and listen to what ebenz just said to you. You have an opportunity to make "amends" and find a more subtle approach to sharing your beliefs...Ben Franklin once said; "A word to the wise is sufficient."

I am not the only true worshipper of the Father the only one true God here, GM.

Look what they do to those pointing them to God's word.

[krystyna]

Originally Posted by Grosnick Marowbe

I gotta go now K think about what I've said...

I agree with you, GM.

But how much of such ugly abuse can one take from those who call themselves Christian?

[ebenz47037]

Originally Posted by krystyna

Hi ebenz.

If you go back you may notice that some people here do as they please; call names, hijack threads, bully the true worshippers of the Father the only one true God making it impossible for them to survive here.

I have posted one of my bans for pointing to godrulz name calling jerzy and me.

Knight (or you. I have no way to tell because the bans come from Knight although you say that you banned me) remarked on this in PM that he has to protect those who have the truth (or something like that).

This was before I became a moderator. I found the post where you were banned for calling names. Really? That was a year ago. By the way, Knight made me a moderator after the first of this year.

I hurt me and I wasn’t posting for very long time.

All I am doing is quoting from hundreds of God’s proof texts.

All I am having is bullying, name calling and calling me stupid or mentally retarded for not rejecting hundreds of God’s proof texts and accepting man made blasphemous stories instead.

Personally, I ban very few people. I usually ban for trying to sell stuff on TOL without permission, disrespecting TOL staff, and vulgar language. With the exception of trying to sell stuff, I tend to warn people once. If they continue with what they were doing, I give them an infraction. Different offenses have different infraction values. The infraction values are what determines whether a person is banned and for how long. Right now, you have 7 infraction points. They will eventually expire, if you don't get any more.

You are in charge of this, ebenz.

You know about this, don’t you ebenz.

Do you think that you should demand respect for this?

The fact that you hold this position of responsibility is God’s will.

Do you really think that you do HIS will?

Actually, you are in charge of this. If you read the rules of TOL, disrespecting moderators is a bannable offense. Your last three infractions (1/27, 1/31 and 2/5) were given by me, Knight, and me. The two given by me were for disrespecting Knight and myself. The one given by Knight was for being unnecessarily disruptive. I just looked at the post he gave the infraction for. It was basically for disrespecting me.

I'm not banning you, right now. But, you need to realize that we (the TOL staff) don't just ban people because we "have the power to do so." I know that when I gave you the second infraction, I thought about it for a few days before doing so. I figured that you were upset because of the ban and were confronting me because you felt that you should have the right to talk to anyone in any manner that you see fit. Well, I'm talking to you respectfully. I would appreciate the same treatment.

If you insist on disrespecting me or any other TOL staff, I will have no choice but to give you another infraction. I don't know how long your banning will be with another infraction at this time. Please, think before you hit submit.

[krystyna]

Originally Posted by ebenz47037

This was before I became a moderator. I found the post where you were banned for calling names. Really? That was a year ago. By the way, Knight made me a moderator after the first of this year.

I have no way to say who is banning me, ebenz.

I adressed my post to Knight as his name comes up at every ban.

Personally, I ban very few people. I usually ban for trying to sell stuff on TOL without permission, disrespecting TOL staff, and vulgar language. With the exception of trying to sell stuff, I tend to warn people once. If they continue with what they were doing, I give them an infraction. Different offenses have different infraction values. The infraction values are what determines whether a person is banned and for how long. Right now, you have 7 infraction points. They will eventually expire, if you don't get any more.

Look ebenz.

My frustracion is groeing with every applause bullie's post receives here.

I see that Jerzy has been banned again.

Can you imagine what he must have gone through here and still posting & warnning people about the ax hanging just above their heads?

What is your share for allowing those bullies making this forum look like a Christian trash bin?

Actually, you are in charge of this. If you read the rules of TOL, disrespecting moderators is a bannable offense. Your last three infractions (1/27, 1/31 and 2/5) were given by me, Knight, and me. The two given by me were for disrespecting Knight and myself. The one given by Knight was for being unnecessarily disruptive. I just looked at the post he gave the infraction for. It was basically for disrespecting me.

I wonder why some people can say and do what they feel like although it is clearly against the TOL rules & have been reported many times.

Don't you think that you allow them to intimidate the few here who keep pointing to God's word instead of to the man made fables, who clearly meddle with God's word having no way to explain why they do it?

I'm not banning you, right now. But, you need to realize that we (the TOL staff) don't just ban people because we "have the power to do so." I know that when I gave you the second infraction, I thought about it for a few days before doing so. I figured that you were upset because of the ban and were confronting me because you felt that you should have the right to talk to anyone in any manner that you see fit. Well, I'm talking to you respectfully. I would appreciate the same treatment.

ebenz.

I said before that I don't need or expect much respect, especially from "Christians".

If you think that you or Knight or any of the Trinitarians doesn't blasphemy against the Father the only one true God state your case.

I understand that the charge is heavy.

I say it this way because, many here including me, didn't seem to make Trinitarians realise what they are really doing.

To say that you think you don't blasphemy doesn't mean much, ebenz.

Paul says that let those who teach gospel different to his be accursed.

It's not a joke especially when he thanks God the Father, our only true God and to the lord Jesus Christ the anointed of the Father, ebenz

If you insist on disrespecting me or any other TOL staff, I will have no choice but to give you another infraction. I don't know how long your banning will be with another infraction at this time. Please, think before you hit submit.

If you find my speaking from God's word disrespectfull and can't explain why rejecting of hundreds of proof texts for man made fables is not blasphemous against the Father the only one true God than do what what you consider appriopriate.

God bless.

[ebenz47037]

Originally Posted by krystyna

I have no way to say who is banning me, ebenz.

I adressed my post to Knight as his name comes up at every ban.

If you look at each message you get when you get banned, you will know who banned you. All I had to do was look at your profile under the infractions tab to see how many times you had received an infraction and who gave it to you.

Look ebenz.

My frustracion is groeing with every applause bullie's post receives here.

I see that Jerzy has been banned again.

Yeah. I noticed that when I was looking for the infraction you received, from Knight, a year ago. I didn't give him the infraction he received that time.

I wonder why some people can say and do what they feel like although it is clearly against the TOL rules & have been reported many times.

Don't you think that you allow them to intimidate the few here who keep pointing to God's word instead of to the man made fables, who clearly meddle with God's word having no way to explain why they do it?

I gave you my reasons for handing out infractions. I give warnings to most of the others. I'm not going to change the way I moderate TOL to please other members. If you don't like the way I moderate, take it to Knight (the owner of the site). If he doesn't like the way I moderate, he can either tell me to change it or remove me as a moderator. It's up to him.

If you think that you or Knight or any of the Trinitarians doesn't blasphemy against the Father the only one true God state your case.

I'm not going to get into a discussion about whether my beliefs in the Trinity are right or wrong. I'm not telling you that your beliefs are right or wrong, either. I'm just telling you that if you want to be respected, you need to show respect. You think that you're being banned because of your beliefs. Well, I didn't see one infraction for blasphemy against you. All of your infractions were for either disrespecting TOL staff or for being unnecessarily disruptive. Each infraction includes the offending post. Just look. You'll see.

I say it this way because, many here including me, didn't seem to make Trinitarians realise what they are really doing.

Like I said, I don't believe that whether you believe in the Trinity or not is a salvation issue. So, I won't discuss it.

If you find my speaking from God's word disrespectfull and can't explain why rejecting of hundreds of proof texts for man made fables is not blasphemous against the Father the only one true God than do what what you consider appriopriate.

God bless.

The following quote is what I banned you for the first time:

Knight can blasphemy against the Father the only true God as he pleases banning those pointing to it because it is his site.

Very Christian indeed.

Being the right winger fanatic (or something like that) he would probably have no problem killing them if he could.

Very good Christian indeed.

Telling Knight (Admin of TOL) that he is blaspheming because he doesn't agree with your interpretation of scripture is disrespectful. And, telling him that because he's a right wing fanatic he would probably have no problem killing non-Trinitarians (I'm guessing at what you meant there.) if he could is disrespectful.

Your next post that received an infraction is quoted below:

Hi ebenz.

You banned me for “Disrepect towards TOL staff:

You have received an infraction at Theology Forum | Christian Theology & More - January 27th, 2012, 12:05 PM
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Dear krystyna,

You have received an infraction at Theology Forum | Christian Theology & More.

Reason: Disrepect towards TOL staff
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This infraction is worth 3 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2938694
Quote:
Knight can blasphemy against the Father the only true God as he pleases banning those pointing to it because it is his site.

Very Christian indeed.

Being the right winger fanatic (or something like that) he would probably have no problem killing them if he could.

Very good Christian indeed.
All the best,
Theology Forum | Christian Theology & More

Could you, please, tell me what you considered “Disrepect towards TOL staff”?

I suppose you mint disrespect.

If so then could you explain in what way I was disrespecting the TOL staff?

It is a fact that Knight is a right wing fanatic (or something like that), isn’t ebenz?

Was Jesus the right or left wing fanatic?

It is a fact that Knight rejects God’s word and upholds the man made lies, isn’t ebenz?

It is a fact that the Trinitarians have murdered millions upon millions including their Trinitarian brothers, isn’t ebenz?

Knight gave you an infraction for being unnecessarily disruptive for that one. You'll have to ask him what he found disruptive about it. In my opinion, you came back, asking for a fight with me. I refused to take the bait on that one.

Your next infraction is quoted below:

Ebenz, get to know the scriptures instead of baseless justification of the barbaric Trinitarian butchering.

You said this:

Quote:
ebenz

I understand that this is the third or fourth thread you've made about the "sin of supporting the military." I (and others) don't necessarily agree that it's a sin to support our military, although most people would agree that it's wrong to just be violent for violence's sake. As a Christian, I remember reading how God told the leaders of Israel how to select their armies. Christ, Himself, said (in Matthew 10:34 and 35) “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’. And, (in Luke 22:36) He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one." There is more, of course. I can find scriptures supporting both being peaceful and being prepared for war in both the New and Old Testaments.

But, for now, I will tell you that I am going to close this thread. If you want to talk about Christians not supporting the military, do it in one of the threads you already started.

Thank you.

post 11 here: http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...d.php?t=80198]
Let's see what God says, ebenz:

Let’s firstly note that the multiple meaning word “machaira” may also mean a knife.

Now, let’s take a look at your seemingly proof text:

Luk 22:36 Then3767 said2036 he unto them,846 But235 now,3568 he that hath2192 a purse,905 let him take142 it, and2532 likewise3668 his(2532) scrip:4082 and2532 he that hath2192 no3361 sword, let him sell4453 his848 garment,2440 and2532 buy59 one.(3162)

It can be clearly seen, that the word “sward” is added to this text as there is no number showing what original word was used.

We note that Jesus tells his apostles to take purses and scripts for the trip. Thus Jesus must have referred to a purse not a sward. If one had no purse he ought to sell his garment in order to buy a script not a sword.

It becomes particularly clear in the context of the prior verse:

Luk 22:35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

Jesus clearly refers to purses, scripts and shoes not to swords.

Likewise the following verse doesn’t indicate Jesus’ intention of engaging in combat:

Luk 22:37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

The also the next verse makes it absolutely obvious that Jesus didn’t command people to sell their garments in order to buy swords as the two “swords” were already enough:

Luk 22:38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

Did Jesus refer to two swards or just to two knifes used, say, at a table?

Perhaps he foresaw Peter’s action and his ability to deliver a stern rebuke of such action among his followers?

Further, neither Jesus nor the apostles toughed or displayed combat. Jesus rebuked and corrected Peter’s action in the Garden of Gethsemane.



In Mt 10:34-35 Jesus is foretelling how the world will treat his disciples. There is no reason whatsoever to suggest from this text (or any other) that he toughed combat.

Quote:
ebenz

I remember reading how God told the leaders of Israel
You are observing the OT as proof that Jesus toughed combat.

You have to sacrifice a sheep for your sin.

Any Trinitarian attacking meshak for exposing the barbaric Trinitarian killings/murdering is not a Christian but just a mere usurper who doesn’t have any idea what God really says in HIS word.

Only those who don’t follow the Christ but speak defiantly against him do so.


You don’t seem to be aware that a Christian should follow the Lord Jesus Christ and love his enemy, as he did, not be involved in the barbaric Trinitarian wars butchering one another in large numbers over centuries.

Thus you merely exposed poor or no scriptures knowledge, ebenz.

Does this mean that I disrespect you, ebenz?

I am just trying to dialogue with you.

You can consider what I said or get to know God’s word if you want to be respected for what you are saying instead of hiding your ignorance by banning people for no reason forcing them to respect you for your scriptures ignorance.

Yes. I gave you this infraction for disrespecting me. Because I don't agree with you, you said that I don't know scriptures. I have never claimed to be a scholar. I don't know Hebrew or Greek. All I know about scripture is what I read.

There is no reason for you to disrespect me. I've given you no reason to do so. You've given me a lot of reasons to disrespect you. But, I won't do that. Right now, you getting banned depends on whether you want to stop disrespecting TOL staff, whether it's me or another moderator.

I've spent too much time discussing this with you, Krys. I have some things I need to do, today. I hope that you decide to think about this.

[krystyna]

Originally Posted by ebenz47037

If you look at each message you get when you get banned, you will know who banned you. All I had to do was look at your profile under the infractions tab to see how many times you had received an infraction and who gave it to you.

Actually you are right, ebenz.

I have no idea why I always "saw?" Knight.

Yeah. I noticed that when I was looking for the infraction you received, from Knight, a year ago. I didn't give him the infraction he received that time.

I am not sure I understand this.

I gave you my reasons for handing out infractions. I give warnings to most of the others. I'm not going to change the way I moderate TOL to please other members. If you don't like the way I moderate, take it to Knight (the owner of the site). If he doesn't like the way I moderate, he can either tell me to change it or remove me as a moderator. It's up to him.

Look ebenz.

I can understand you more after you come up as a person.

I am not asking favors.

Well, I didn't know you warned others though I don't see them acting as usual.

Is their warning against my banning fair? I am not convinced. They were the one's who made me talk to them and to the Trinitarians in general the harsh way. However I can live with this knowing that you have done something to make this place "habitable".

I'm not going to get into a discussion about whether my beliefs in the Trinity are right or wrong. I'm not telling you that your beliefs are right or wrong, either. I'm just telling you that if you want to be respected, you need to show respect. You think that you're being banned because of your beliefs. Well, I didn't see one infraction for blasphemy against you. All of your infractions were for either disrespecting TOL staff or for being unnecessarily disruptive. Each infraction includes the offending post. Just look. You'll see.

I don’t say that any infraction was given for my quoting from God’s word but resulted from it.

No Trinitarian is able to show a single proof text for their views or concepts.

No Trinitarian is able to show a single proof text allowing them to speak against the Father the only one true God.

I have pointed out what constitutes blasphemy in “Blasphemy against God”.

Not many people realize it and, to be honest, I didn’t either for a long time.

It is a serious matter and I brought it up to the TOL’s attention when they seemed to be happy with what the Trinitarian bullies were doing here.

It is good, I think, we can talk about this to understand what and why happened.

Like I said, I don't believe that whether you believe in the Trinity or not is a salvation issue. So, I won't discuss it.

Jesus wouldn’t have said it so plainly in Jn 17:3.

Besides, there is no mention whatsoever that rejecting his word and following man’s views or concepts absolves one from judgment of Jn 12:46-50.

The following quote is what I banned you for the first time:

Telling Knight (Admin of TOL) that he is blaspheming because he doesn't agree with your interpretation of scripture is disrespectful. And, telling him that because he's a right wing fanatic he would probably have no problem killing non-Trinitarians (I'm guessing at what you meant there.) if he could is disrespectful.

Your next post that received an infraction is quoted below:

Knight gave you an infraction for being unnecessarily disruptive for that one. You'll have to ask him what he found disruptive about it. In my opinion, you came back, asking for a fight with me. I refused to take the bait on that one.

Your next infraction is quoted below:

Yes. I gave you this infraction for disrespecting me. Because I don't agree with you, you said that I don't know scriptures. I have never claimed to be a scholar. I don't know Hebrew or Greek. All I know about scripture is what I read.

There is no reason for you to disrespect me. I've given you no reason to do so. You've given me a lot of reasons to disrespect you. But, I won't do that. Right now, you getting banned depends on whether you want to stop disrespecting TOL staff, whether it's me or another moderator.

I've spent too much time discussing this with you, Krys. I have some things I need to do, today. I hope that you decide to think about this.

Fair enough, ebenz.

1. You got Lu 22:36 totally wrong.
2. Taking political sides at all and to the fanatical level in particular is certainly not what a follower of Christ should do.
3. Point 1 and 2 above have been leading to the Trinitarian barbarism of which the true worshippers of the Father the only one true God are not guilty of, barbarism by which people should know the Trinitarian’s fruits.

4. No Trinitarian has proven so far that I interpret those proof verses I quote.

Therefore, saying that one disagrees with my interpretation of the scriptures is saying that one disagrees with what God says. It is so true because no Trinitarian knows what the Trinity really means.

Jerzy posted recently how Cruciform contradicted himself in an attempt to get himself out of the deep hole when he stated that the Father is the only true God and that there are no other Gods.

As the matter of fact few Protestants dug the same holes for themselves and were very frustrated when jerzy pointed it to them.

Do you and Knight like it, ebens?

Certainly not.

Should I have said it so clearly before?

I have listed my reasons. From my point of view you are one of/or the one who allowed Trinitarians behave so viciously against the true worshippers of the Father the only one true God here.

Are people aware that what they are doing is going to cost them the eternal life?

I don’t think so. You just said it above.

What are my options, ebenz.

Nobody gets it when people like Aner (he was bullied out) speak gently.

Nobody gets it when people like meshak, jerzy and I take Trinitarians to task. All we have is abuses and banning.

Saying that the Trinitarians don’t think they are going to lose the eternal life is like for me saying that I don’t think I am going to lose a million dollars which I don’t have anyway.

[krystyna]

Do the Christians finally know what blasphemy against the Father the only one true God really is?

See the opening post.