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February 8th, 2012, 07:36 AM

Locomotive,

Would you also please answer this question:

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On to me again Hitomi. Yes, I am an agent of the Church sent to rebuke your satanic doctrine.
Why is it that you get to come here and do this, and she is not allowed to be here and do the same? Do you see the hypocrissy in that? Thought so.

You see, you are the hypocrit. You speak and judge her by what you are doing yourself.

WE are all here on this board doing the same thing...but, only some of us call it evil.

You, have...and, those who gang up with you on her, are the hypocrits, too...in mho.

She hasnt, as far as I have yet to find...she has said she is here to share her convictions....now, who is the hypocrit?



   
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February 8th, 2012, 07:51 AM

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Above quote is Nick M and MrDeets neg reps in my user cp.

Nick M and MrDeet lose their word of credibility by resort in those kind of malicious comments.

And Inzle whom MrDeets talks so highly seems to deleted all her neg report she gave me; they all disappered from my user cp.
not that you can read me post, (because apparently unbeknown to myself I am a trin and warmonger, go figure ) but when you put someone on ignore all their neg reps, well all their reps either way disappear from your user CP area, that's kind of implied with the word "ignore".

I wouldn't read too much into it.

no doubt you have hundreds of neg reps, but with more than half the site on ignore you won't see them, the only ones you'll see are the few stragglers you have yet to falsely accuse, condemn, and put on ignore, but give it some time at this rate eventually there should be no one's rep comments showing up in there. <---just love that little guy!

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February 8th, 2012, 07:52 AM

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I would have to go back through my posts and I will be happily corrected if I'm wrong, however, I don't believe I called her a JW. I believe the wording was similar to she was a follower of Russel Taze, was a BibleStudent, and left their group but retained many of their beliefs.
How did you just *happen* to join this forum AFTER Meshak?


Meshak Join Date: December 28th, 2011

locomotivebreath Join Date: February 3rd, 2012


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If that is the case, and I believe it is, graceandpeace, I believe you've just slandered me.

And, I've spoken nothing but the truth of her.
Being that you are a newbie yourself, there is only YOUR word to take for this.

Being that the majority of your posts have been attacks against Meshak, your character and motives are questionable ... to say the least.

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I believe, if you'll search back through my posts, you'll find what I've said to be true and there should be an apology forthcoming. Let's do the right thing here shall we?
How about you quit stalking Meshak and actually start some debating rather than instigating?

Thus far you are showing yourself as nothing more than a mean-spirited gossip and internet stalker.





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February 8th, 2012, 08:44 AM

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Would you also please answer this question:
God, that highlighting thing is beyond annoying.

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You, have...and, those who gang up with you on her, are the hypocrits, too...in mho.

She hasnt, as far as I have yet to find...she has said she is here to share her convictions....now, who is the hypocrit?
I'm not sure who is ' ganging ' up with me on her. Clearly though my opinion is shared by many except by you hypergrace folks.



   
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February 8th, 2012, 08:49 AM

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Being that the majority of your posts have been attacks against Meshak, your character and motives are questionable ... to say the least.
I've defended Genesis 2 and 3 with a few folks, the Trinity. I've remarked that Sabellianism was condemned in the 3rd century. I don't know I'm an equal opportunity offender I guess. If the adminstrator of the forum finds me unacceptable I'm sure he'll do what he has to do. Otherwise, for the time being, I'm sort of enjoying myself here.



   
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February 8th, 2012, 12:05 PM

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I would suggest that it is not just 'her'...but, how she was treated when she first came here, by those whom rejected what she said. The flesh often returns evil with evil, and, it is wrong to say it was just her, in mho....everyone who participated is just as guilty as her, and the whole point being is that 'some' think they are above others on this board, which is the true hypocrissy.
No doubt it is not just meshak's fault she's attacked. But it is primarily her fault. Look at the small dialog we had in another thread:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2948080
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2948484
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2948866
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2948979
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2949077
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2949180

It amply demonstrates her real issue.

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IF you ask me.

I am above no one, I speak the truth, in love....if someone rejects it, sometimes I return their hatred with not so nice comments, but I never EVER claim I do not.

Those whom do, are the real hypocrits...and, it is very apparant as to who they are.
That's fine, but I am trying to help meshak, not them, since they are not in danger of being banned or shunned.

It's kind of like saying JoeyArnold was not responsible for his own downfall. Of course he received so much flak for small things, but it was still his fault in the end.

It's good that at least someone is defending meshak. Kudos to you for that. But she needs to learn how to be constructive.





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February 8th, 2012, 12:11 PM

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I've defended Genesis 2 and 3 with a few folks, the Trinity. I've remarked that Sabellianism was condemned in the 3rd century. I don't know I'm an equal opportunity offender I guess. If the adminstrator of the forum finds me unacceptable I'm sure he'll do what he has to do. Otherwise, for the time being, I'm sort of enjoying myself here.
Meshak is not Sabellian, dipwit.



   
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February 8th, 2012, 12:24 PM

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God, that highlighting thing is beyond annoying.



I'm not sure who is ' ganging ' up with me on her. Clearly though my opinion is shared by many except by you hypergrace folks.
Thanks for not answering the questions....and, I have no clue what you mean by hypergrace.




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February 8th, 2012, 12:27 PM

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No doubt it is not just meshak's fault she's attacked. But it is primarily her fault. Look at the small dialog we had in another thread:

http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2948080
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2948484
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2948866
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2948979
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2949077
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums....php?p=2949180

It amply demonstrates her real issue.


That's fine, but I am trying to help meshak, not them, since they are not in danger of being banned or shunned.

It's kind of like saying JoeyArnold was not responsible for his own downfall. Of course he received so much flak for small things, but it was still his fault in the end.

It's good that at least someone is defending meshak. Kudos to you for that. But she needs to learn how to be constructive.
I understand, Mike...just wanted to point out the facts. Some here think they are without fault in the Meshak fiasco, and, to me they are the real hypocrits...as for Meshak, she presented her case, with scripture...but, no one ever wants to talk about the scriptures themselves.



   
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February 8th, 2012, 12:30 PM

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I've defended Genesis 2 and 3 with a few folks, the Trinity. I've remarked that Sabellianism was condemned in the 3rd century. I don't know I'm an equal opportunity offender I guess. If the adminstrator of the forum finds me unacceptable I'm sure he'll do what he has to do. Otherwise, for the time being, I'm sort of enjoying myself here.
I would also point out to you that you cannot claim someone is a heretic due to the fact that they are not trinitarians, I am not one, myself..a heretic is someone that rejects the gospel, and man made doctrines are not the gospel, so until you can rightly learn to use the word 'heretic' in a right way, it is not wise to call others that ugly name.

The word "heretic" means someone that does not accept the gospel of HOW we are saved.

It does not include added doctrines of men, that seek to interpret other doctrines.



   
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February 8th, 2012, 01:04 PM

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I would also point out to you that you cannot claim someone is a heretic due to the fact that they are not trinitarians, I am not one, myself..a heretic is someone that rejects the gospel, and man made doctrines are not the gospel, so until you can rightly learn to use the word 'heretic' in a right way, it is not wise to call others that ugly name.

The word "heretic" means someone that does not accept the gospel of HOW we are saved.

It does not include added doctrines of men, that seek to interpret other doctrines.
Meshak believes that we are saved by works, so on that basis she can be called a heretic.

Also a strong case can be, and has been, made from scripture to explain why we believe in the trinity. To regard it as a doctrine of men is to disregard much scriptural evidence. I do not believe in the Trinity because I was told to, but because I have read the scriptures and I believe that is what it says.



   
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Meshak believes that we are saved by works, so on that basis she can be called a heretic.

Also a strong case can be, and has been, made from scripture to explain why we believe in the trinity. To regard it as a doctrine of men is to disregard much scriptural evidence. I do not believe in the Trinity because I was told to, but because I have read the scriptures and I believe that is what it says.
she does not believe you are saved by works..she believes RIGHTLY so that you cannot separate them..from your salvation...which is the biblical truth. If you do not have works of LOVE, you do not have Jesus living in you, period..He will work.,

as for the trinity; I have been taught it, disected it, tried to find it in the bible, and still could not embrace it, so, to each his/her own, do not call me a heretic for what is not written.

For example, the trinity teaches that only the Son died for your sins, while the bible says that Jesus was the fulness of the Godhead bodily, and that HE would be called the Father...which is what I do believe.

I believe in one God, that was the great I AM, the Father, whom was also the Son, and you cannot separate them into different persons, that co existed outside of each other..that is polytheism, for crying out loud.



   
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February 8th, 2012, 02:25 PM

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Meshak believes that we are saved by works, so on that basis she can be called a heretic.
I have been saying over and over that you cannot separate faith and works. If you have faith you will also have works, period.

You are misrepresenting me.



   
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February 8th, 2012, 02:29 PM

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It's good that at least someone is defending meshak. Kudos to you for that. But she needs to learn how to be constructive.
Sir, Please enlighten me how I am not being constructive?

thanks.



   
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Sir, Please enlighten me how I am not being constructive?

thanks.
You aren't engaging in conversation. You're just ignoring everyone that disagrees with you....including me. You won't get this.



   
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