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Why do say this: "His days in the flesh are over"?
Heb. 5:7 is speaking of Jesus' incarnation and the days He was flesh. He is no longer in the flesh.
1 Corinthians 15:44
It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1 Cor. 15:49-50
And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
I do recognize and state that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh, as I John 4:2 states and teaches.
"Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:"
Since I have stated that, my spirit is of God.
There is nothing in that verse about God is come in the flesh.
Please reread it until you see that.
oatmeal
Re-read this til you get it:
God declared: "I will not give my glory unto another." Isa 48:11
And Jesus said: "the glory which thou gavest meI have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one;(Jn 17:22–23).
Now, I full well know you will wiggle around those passages. Lets just say I did for myself__for practice.
Slogan/motto:
II Timothy 2:15, Psalms 6:5, I John 3:1-2, Romans 5:1 I John 4:18, I Timothy 2:4-5, II Corinthians 9:8,11, III John 2
Reputation:
June 5th, 2012, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cross Reference
Re-read this til you get it:
God declared: "I will not give my glory unto another." Isa 48:11
And Jesus said: "the glory which thou gavest meI have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one;(Jn 17:22–23).
Now, I full well know you will wiggle around those passages. Lets just say I did for myself__for practice.
Why did you sidestep my post?
Please give your rebuttal to my post.
Or did you actually read I John 4:2 for the first time?
And found out what it actually says?
You trins always assume you know. Then scriptures are presented to you and you sidestep, you run and hide, you name call, anything but rise up to what is actually written.
Well, maybe some day you will.
oatmeal
"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42
"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?" Psalm 6:5
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Reputation:
June 5th, 2012, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by glorydaz
Guess what, Oatmeal...God loves everyone just as much as He loves you. Me...me....me...me...me....myself and I.
No, He does not---
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." Isaiah 9:6 (KJV)
And this one:
"And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory". Mark 13:26 (KJV)
Are you Oneness, modalist, Jesus Only, UPC, Sabellian, etc.? Do you reject the Trinity?
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
I am proud to be a son of God, with Jesus Christ as my brother.
I John 3:1-2
Hebrews 2:11
If you find that offensive, you might want to learn to renew your mind.
If you do not know how....
oatmeal
ME TOO.
Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
LA
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Slogan/motto:
I have no political views of this world, and lean towards none that are listed. 2Co 5:17 (GW) Gal 6:15 (GW)
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June 6th, 2012, 01:09 AM
John 3:6-20 (NKJV)
6 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
What does believing in Him mean:
17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
21 But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God."
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2Co 5:17 Whoever is a believer in Christ is a new creation. The old way of living has disappeared. A new way of living has come into existence.
Slogan/motto:
II Timothy 2:15, Psalms 6:5, I John 3:1-2, Romans 5:1 I John 4:18, I Timothy 2:4-5, II Corinthians 9:8,11, III John 2
Reputation:
June 6th, 2012, 04:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by glorydaz
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
gd,
God gave His son.
Not himself.
God gave of himself.
But He did not give himself.
Jesus Christ is not God.
He is the son of God.
oatmeal
"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42
"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?" Psalm 6:5
I John 3:1-2. Prov 14:34 Psalm 133:1
Last edited by oatmeal; June 6th, 2012 at 04:25 AM.
Reason: clarity
oats, there is time speak and a time to learn. Learn:
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But He did not give himself.
There can be no forgiveness of Adam's transgression unless sinless human blood be shed. Keep in mind that sinless human blood could not have been possible without God stepping into Adam's race to conceive one to be birthed in that way. The seed was of Himself, equal to Him. The very Life of God was IN Jesus Christ. So when it is said that God gave Himself, think of it that way.
God was IN Christ reconciling the world to Himself. Since God cannot die, a body of flesh representing Him that could, was the ONLY WAY it could be said that God died on the cross. Further evidence and proof that it was "God" was the prior transfiguration of Jesus on the mount; the "Word" of God, God, whose Glory was witnessed from Jesus by three witnesses.
Now when you re-read John 1:1 there should be understanding by revelation, waiting for you.
Try these on for fit as well:
"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."Philippians 2:6-8
"The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God." Isaiah 40:3
oats, there is time speak and a time to learn. Learn:
There can be no forgiveness of Adam's transgression unless sinless human blood be shed. Keep in mind that sinless human blood could not have been possible without God stepping into Adam's race to conceive one to be birthed in that way. The seed was of Himself, equal to Him. The very Life of God was IN Jesus Christ. So when it is said that God gave Himself, think of it that way.
God was IN Christ reconciling the world to Himself. Since God cannot die, a body of flesh representing Him that could, was the ONLY WAY it could be said that God died on the cross. Further evidence and proof that it was "God" was the prior transfiguration of Jesus on the mount; the "Word" of God, God, whose Glory was witnessed from Jesus by three witnesses.
Now when you re-read John 1:1 there should be understanding by revelation, waiting for you.
Try these on for fit as well:
"Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross."Philippians 2:6-8
"The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God." Isaiah 40:3