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July 17th, 2012, 04:47 PM

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You have never been baptized with the Holy Spirit by Jesus have you.
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A Christian is not a better person because they got baptized.

Baptism is an outward showing of your faith. It is not a salvation issue, either. We are saved in Christ and not baptism. Yes, it is good that a person should get baptized. However, I think God is more concerned with:

Loving and walking with God in truth.
Loving others.
Helping the poor

All of which I do.

Yes, a Christian needs to strive to do all things God has appointed for us to do. We are human and we are not perfect. We constantly need the Lord's grace and His mercy ever day to be more perfect as God is perfect. But if a person just gets baptized and then goes back to their old way of living or if they treat other people in a hateful or hurtful way then their baptism did not really mean anything.



   
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July 17th, 2012, 04:48 PM

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Jesus was a man who humbled Himself.

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Paul said that He humbed himself and became a man. Paul's order is this:

He made himself nothing,

and

took upon the form of a servant

and,

was made in the likeness of men

It's clear!



   
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July 17th, 2012, 04:49 PM

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LA:

A Christian is not a better person because they got baptized.

Baptism is an outward showing of your faith. It is not a salvation issue, either. We are saved in Christ and not baptism. Yes, it is good that a person should get baptized. However, I think God is more concerned with:

Loving and walking with God in truth.
Loving others.
Helping the poor

All of which I do.

Yes, a Christian needs to strive do all things God has appointed for us to do. We are human and we are not perfect. We constantly need the Lord's grace and His mercy ever day to be more perfect as God is perfect. But if a person just gets baptized and then goes back to their old way of living or if they treat other people in a hateful or hurtful way then their baptism did not really mean anything.
You have never been baptized by Jesus with the Holy Spirit now have you.

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July 17th, 2012, 04:52 PM

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Paul said that He humbed himself and became a man. Paul's order is this:

He made himself nothing,

and

took upon the form of a servant

and,

was made in the likeness of men

It's clear!

Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:



   
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July 17th, 2012, 04:54 PM

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You have never been baptized by Jesus with the Holy Spirit now have you.
LA:

Personally, I am not going to boast, but how often do you give to the poor?
See, I can play that game, too. However, you are resorting to attacking me personally because I have shown you the truth of God's Word, my friend. I attack the doctrine, the belief, the religion. I do not attack people. I strive to love and pray for everyone that God tells me to pray for. Including the people that don't like me. Can you say the same? However, I care for you deeply and I pray that God will be able to help you to see one day.

Peace be unto you, my dear friend.

With loving kindness to you in Christ:

Sincerely,

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July 17th, 2012, 04:57 PM

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Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
He was found in fashion as a man as the consequence of these:

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

But made himself nothing,

and took upon himself

the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

and being found in fashion as a man.

Are you dense?



   
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July 17th, 2012, 05:02 PM

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Talk like what? Speaking the truth is something that offends you?


I see the GLORY OF GOD in the face of Jesus Christ, and so should you.

2 Corinthians 4:6
For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
The truth is not what you said when you had said--

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Exactly. They can't bear to look in the face of Jesus Christ their God and Saviour. They can only read verses that speak of Jesus the man. In fact, they refuse to address ANY verse that shows His deity. It's like holding up a cross to a vampire. Same reaction.
None deny the Diety of Christ according to the Bible but you have these other private interpretations of the Bible to protect.

Christ was given diety from His Father.---

Joh 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
Joh 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

When Peter was explaining who Jesus was , He never said He was God Almighty the creator, he said--

Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell(grave, dead), neither his flesh did see corruption.
Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

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July 17th, 2012, 05:03 PM

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No, you would agree with the authenticity that is already there. You finally got it. Since you believe that God is Spirit which is true and you believe Christ is Spirit then Christ is God. Now what was so hard about that.
Nothing, except they are two and one is created by the other.

Just because your wrongdoes not make yoiu a bad person BR.
God still loves ya.





Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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July 17th, 2012, 05:06 PM

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Saved from what, pops?
For what ever it is that you believe in.





Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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July 17th, 2012, 05:06 PM

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LA:

Personally, I am not going to boast, but how often do you give to the poor?
See, I can play that game, too. However, you are resorting to attacking me personally because I have shown you the truth of God's Word, my friend. However, I care for you deeply and I pray that God will be able to help you to see one day.

Peace be unto you.

With loving kindness to you in Christ:

Sincerely,

~Jason.
Why can you not admit that you have never been baptised by Jesus with the Holy spirit?

Why do you say that you are trying to help other people by your posts but when I try to help you then you say I am resorting to attacking you personally.

Just seek the Lord for His baptism of you.

Gotta go now, must travel.

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You have never been baptized by Jesus with the Holy Spirit now have you.

LA
Neither have you, if you are saved, and neither is any member of the boc , in this dispensation, baptized by the Lord Jesus Christ. Members of the boc are baptized by the Spirit-He is the baptizer.





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Nothing, except they are two and one is created by the other.

Just because your wrongdoes not make yoiu a bad person BR.
God still loves ya.
The Word proves me right. You're theory is just that, a theory.





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For the umteenth time because He made himself nothing and took upon Himself the form of a servant, Philippians 2:5-11.
No he did not. He sent his son and gave him the spirit image of himself. The Christ.

God was IN Jesus, Jesus was not God. The spirit IN him is a form of God.





Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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The Word proves me right. You're theory is just that, a theory.
Someday you will slap the top of your head and say, "So that is what he was saying, dog gone it, he was right."

Peace Brother





Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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Someday you will slap the top of your head and say, "So that is what he was saying, dog gone it, he was right."

Peace Brother
Not in this lifetime and that is all I have to address truth friend.





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