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March 14th, 2012, 04:50 PM

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I am not the newest member friend. I have been here since last December.
Newest member added. You have to have a few hundred posts, I believe, to be added.

Why do they start calling us "friend" the moment they get added to Satan, Inc. (TOL's heretic's list)? Mt 7:15

Ex. 23:32, 33; Ex. 34:12 Judg. 2:2. Num. 16:26; Deut. 7:2–4 Deut. 12:30; Ezra 9:1, 2. Deut. 13:6–11; Josh. 23:6, 7, 13; Ezra 9:12; Ezra 10:11; Psa. 1:1; Prov. 1:10–15; Prov. 4:14, 15; Prov. 9:6; Prov. 14:7; Matt. 18:17; Rom. 16:17; 1 Cor. 5:9–11; 2 Cor. 6:14–17; Eph. 5:11; 2 Thess. 3:6, 14, 15; 1 Tim. 6:3–5; 2 Tim. 3:2–7; 2 Pet. 3:17; 2 John 9–11; Rev. 18:1–4






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March 14th, 2012, 09:45 PM

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Hi , and what Peter is adressing are all Jews and NOT Gentiles !!

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It does not matter, it was still the Church, born again jews ! Peter was actually addressing Spiritual People who happened to be ethnic jews, other than that, ethnic jews are not the children of God Rom 9:8





"All things turn out according to Divine predestination, "There is no such thing as chance or fortune, nor is there a readier way to gain the fear of God, and to put our whole trust in Him, than to be thoroughly versed in the doctrine of predestination." Philipp Melanchthon
   
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March 14th, 2012, 10:23 PM

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Newest member added. You have to have a few hundred posts, I believe, to be added.

Why do they start calling us "friend" the moment they get added to Satan, Inc. (TOL's heretic's list)? Mt 7:15

Ex. 23:32, 33; Ex. 34:12 Judg. 2:2. Num. 16:26; Deut. 7:2–4 Deut. 12:30; Ezra 9:1, 2. Deut. 13:6–11; Josh. 23:6, 7, 13; Ezra 9:12; Ezra 10:11; Psa. 1:1; Prov. 1:10–15; Prov. 4:14, 15; Prov. 9:6; Prov. 14:7; Matt. 18:17; Rom. 16:17; 1 Cor. 5:9–11; 2 Cor. 6:14–17; Eph. 5:11; 2 Thess. 3:6, 14, 15; 1 Tim. 6:3–5; 2 Tim. 3:2–7; 2 Pet. 3:17; 2 John 9–11; Rev. 18:1–4
Oh, You think you are God's friend?

I dont think so. You are disobedient to Jesus.



   
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March 14th, 2012, 11:57 PM

Repentance is an evidence of having been saved !





"All things turn out according to Divine predestination, "There is no such thing as chance or fortune, nor is there a readier way to gain the fear of God, and to put our whole trust in Him, than to be thoroughly versed in the doctrine of predestination." Philipp Melanchthon
   
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March 15th, 2012, 06:08 PM

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Repentance is an evidence of having been saved !

Hi , and you say that Rom 10:9 and Eph 2:8 have the word Repentance ?

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March 15th, 2012, 08:11 PM

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Repentance is an evidence of having been saved !
I may have said this at some point, but I don't know if it is the truth or the whole truth if it is partly true.





John 1:49 NASB - Nathanael answered Him, "Rabbi, You are the Son of God; You are the King of Israel."

1 Corinthians 15:24 NASB - then comes the end, when He hands over the kingdom to the God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power.

Colossians 1:13 NASB - For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son,

Romans 5:10 NASB - For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

2 Corinthians 5:15 NASB - and He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf.

Proverbs 2:20 NASB - So you will walk in the way of good men And keep to the paths of the righteous.
   
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March 15th, 2012, 09:50 PM

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Repentance is an evidence of having been saved !
It is only beginning of servanthood.



   
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March 16th, 2012, 12:54 AM

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It is only beginning of servanthood.
What the heck are you talking about ? You teach all kind of false doctrine !





"All things turn out according to Divine predestination, "There is no such thing as chance or fortune, nor is there a readier way to gain the fear of God, and to put our whole trust in Him, than to be thoroughly versed in the doctrine of predestination." Philipp Melanchthon
   
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March 16th, 2012, 12:55 AM

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Hi , and you say that Rom 10:9 and Eph 2:8 have the word Repentance ?

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"All things turn out according to Divine predestination, "There is no such thing as chance or fortune, nor is there a readier way to gain the fear of God, and to put our whole trust in Him, than to be thoroughly versed in the doctrine of predestination." Philipp Melanchthon
   
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March 19th, 2012, 04:46 PM

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What are you talking about ?

Hi , and just what I asked , is the word Repentance in Rom 10:9 , or is it in Eph 2:8 ?

I , can see it for Israel , for they were called to Repent , in Matt 3:2 and verse 11 and Matt 4:17 !!

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March 19th, 2012, 05:41 PM

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Hi , and just what I asked , is the word Repentance in Rom 10:9 , or is it in Eph 2:8 ?
No the word repentance are not in those verses. So Now what ?





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No the word repentance are not in those verses. So Now what ?

Hi , and we all see that REPENTANCE/METANOIA , a " change of mind " was only given to Israel and not to the Body of Christ .

Israel was given the opportunity to REPENT of her sins and they would not and that is why John the Baptist came to cleanup the people for the MESSIAH which they Rejected .

Gentiles , in 1 Cor 2:14 , have the word and were Strangers from the Covenants , Eph 2:12 , and considered it all FOOLISHNESS and is only Spiritually Discerned , dan p



   
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March 20th, 2012, 06:21 AM

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Hi , and we all see that REPENTANCE/METANOIA , a " change of mind " was only given to Israel and not to the Body of Christ .
Israel is the body of Christ, and Christ the Head of the Church has risen to give Repentance to Israel or to the Church Acts 5:30-31

30The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.

31Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Jesus is the Head of the Church, thats who He died for ! Rev 22:16

I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Eph 3:21

Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.

Eph 5:25

25Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;

Israel is not ethnic jews, for ethnic jews in and of themselves are not the children of God Rom 9:8 !





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Israel was given the opportunity to REPENT of her sins and they would not
Yes, Israel the Election did Repent, they were given Repentance, the only ones that did not repent were those who belonged to the seed of the serpent who John made it plain that Repentance was not for them Matt 3:5-6

5Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,

6And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

But vs 7

7But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

Those jews did not belong to the Elect, they belonged to the devil ! Christ did not Love them.

BTW those Jews that did repent along with John were the Bride of Christ, the Church, so John said this Jn 3:29

He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

Who is John speaking of as the bridegroom ? Who is the Bride ? What is the Bride of Christ ?





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Who is John speaking of as the bridegroom ? Who is the Bride ? What is the Bride of Christ ?[/QUOTE]


Hi , and without a doubt , the BRIDE is not the Body of Christ , but Israel .

Check John 3:29-30 !

We are " in Christ " and Christ does not marry Christ , dan p



   
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