[g_n_o_s_i_s]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

It has to do with their actions.

Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

do by nature the things contained in the law

What law. There is a law that contain something. What is this law that Gentiles can do by nature?

[meshak]

Originally Posted by g_n_o_s_i_s

do by nature the things contained in the law

What law. There is a law that contain something. What is this law that Gentiles can do by nature?

What on earth are you talking about?

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by g_n_o_s_i_s

do by nature the things contained in the law

What law. There is a law that contain something. What is this law that Gentiles can do by nature?

I'm looking at the "law unto themselves" part.

Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

[g_n_o_s_i_s]

Originally Posted by meshak

What on earth are you talking about?

What law is it referring to? I don't know how I can ask it any simpler.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by g_n_o_s_i_s

What law is it referring to? I don't know how I can ask it any simpler.

The part I am emphasizing from the verse is the Law of Moses:

Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

[meshak]

Originally Posted by g_n_o_s_i_s

What law is it referring to? I don't know how I can ask it any simpler.

Christians' law is Jesus' teachings and commandments.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by meshak

Christians' law is Jesus' teachings and commandments.

Our question before your observation was if there is such a thing as "the law of the conscience". That's my perspective on where the question is coming from.

[meshak]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

Our question before your observation was if there is such a thing as "the law of the conscience". That's my perspective on where the question is coming from.

It seems that you are making simple complicated.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by meshak

It seems that you are making simple complicated.

I didn't see "the law of the conscience" in the verse after first idenitifying that it is there.

Romans 2:15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; )

[Untellectual]

Here is this:

Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them.

[g_n_o_s_i_s]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

The part I am ephasizing from the verse is the Law of Moses:

Romans 2:14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

How would a Gentile do by nature all the 613 commands specified in the Torah? How would one by nature know not to work on the first day of the passover? Or how to not inflict punishment on Shabbat?

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by g_n_o_s_i_s

How would a Gentile do by nature all the 613 commands specified in the Torah? How would one by nature know not to work on the first day of the passover? Or how to not inflict punishment on Shabbat?

That's a great question. I don't think Paul is saying that this (what you have said) is what happens (or, rather, is what is the case).

[g_n_o_s_i_s]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

That's a great question. I don't think Paul is saying that this (what you have said) is what happens.

Or for that matter not to pick sticks on a Saturday? ;P

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by g_n_o_s_i_s

Or for that matter not to pick sticks on a Saturday? ;P

Those without the law would not know that, except that God revealed it to them somehow.

[g_n_o_s_i_s]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

Those without the law would not know that, except that God revealed it to them somehow.

Then it wouldn't be by nature would it?