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To clarify, Venus, do you think God can create a rock too heavy to lift? I would suggest He cannot (logical absurdity, not a true limitation on omnipotence). If you think He can do so (please draw one) and must do so to truly be God/omnipotent, then I cannot help you (also explain the concept of married bachelor, man woman, Christian atheist, pregnant and not pregnant at the same time, 2+2=4 and 5 at the same time, etc.).
He could make a rock too heavy for Him to lift, but then He could change His mind. But since God is omnipotent and knows beforehand His choices before He makes them, He never changes His mind.
And God can make a square circle, all He has to do is make it infinitely large.
Logical WIN. What do you have to say to that, GR?
He could make a rock too heavy for Him to lift, but then He could change His mind. But since God is omnipotent and knows beforehand His choices before He makes them, He never changes His mind.
And God can make a square circle, all He has to do is make it infinitely large.
Logical WIN. What do you have to say to that, GR?
The Bible says that God can and does change His mind in some cases, but not in other cases (35x). A rock too heavy to lift is a logical absurdity (most atheists/theists see this point). You are still confusing omnipotence (do) and omniscience (know). He does not have to know His choices beforehand either to be sovereign. The Bible shows God responding to changing contingencies in real time (not a problem if you are omnicompetent negating the need to be omnicausal).
It does not matter if a square circle is 1 inch or a billion miles. Making a stupid concept bigger does not make it real or possible. A married bachelor is still a contradiction regardless of how tall or small the mythical creature is.
I have to say that you do not know what you are talking about
Go away until you grow up.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
The Bible says that God can and does change His mind in some cases, but not in other cases (35x). A rock too heavy to lift is a logical absurdity (most atheists/theists see this point). You are still confusing omnipotence (do) and omniscience (know). He does not have to know His choices beforehand either to be sovereign. The Bible shows God responding to changing contingencies in real time (not a problem if you are omnicompetent negating the need to be omnicausal).
There you go, saying the same thing over and over again as if I haven't negated it.
God does change His mind, He reveals unto us in a fashion we can understand and in a manner of testing and fulfillment. Like a teacher.
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It does not matter if a square circle is 1 inch or a billion miles. Making a stupid concept bigger does not make it real or possible. A married bachelor is still a contradiction regardless of how tall or small the mythical creature is.
Talking about square circles is what is stupid.
An infinitely large shape would be a straight line because it would never curve or have points. In fact, that is a paradox to everything physical, because the universe is finite on an infinite plane. So what exactly is a shape? It drives physicists mad. So your argument, again, is just stupid.
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I have to say that you do not know what you are talking about
Go away until you grow up.
You and other Arminians are just mad because you cannot sell your fanatical notions while I'm around
I was Arminian. I am now Open Theist, a more biblical, coherent free will theism.
The difference is like Roman and Anglicanism. They are built on the same general premise. Look at their differences with the Trinity for example- pretty negligible.
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What are you? A communist or a Calvinist? Your name sounds Hindu.
Someone's Grudge sounds Hindu?
Let me tell you what it means:
I am someone's grudge. You are someone's grudge. Everyone is someone's grudge. Even God is someone's grudge.
Yep, my name should be equated to 'anonymous'. Funny how that works, huh?
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It is not dishonest to have a different view than you, especially when I am sincere and you are wrong.
I don't even have to prove you wrong even though I do. The only people that are attracted to your ideology are those that are none the wiser. Intellectually honest people see your absurdity quite clearly, and it's those people in which make 'convincing' have any value.
Perhaps it is your symbol or that gruj looks like guru when you are older like me?
What do you do for a living? I am a paramedic.
That's nice. I am not indulging my life to you.
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Is Jesus God Almighty in the flesh or not?
Jesus was made into flesh by God's Word. I'm sorry that basic poetic notions do not avail you Trinitarians. You'd rather believe a bunch of Romans who found any excuse they could to tag their cultural myths and philosophies to Christianity.
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Do you claim to be Christian?
Yes. My theology is not thoroughly based on either Arminianism, Calvinism, Catholicism, or Lutheranism (which is practically watered-down Catholicism anyways).
I am non-denominational. That is why I tend to make sense, because I do not lean on others' adulterated opinions.
I will answer your questions specifically. You reject the trinity, so you say Jesus is a created being (Arian/JW-like view?). I will assume you deny the trinity and the Deity of Christ (some affirm the latter, but not the former).
I want to know if I am talking to a fellow believer or a cultist.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
I will answer your questions specifically. You reject the trinity, so you say Jesus is a created being (Arian/JW-like view?). I will assume you deny the trinity and the Deity of Christ (some affirm the latter, but not the former).
I want to know if I am talking to a fellow believer or a cultist.
You can stop your nonsense right there. Are you Catholic? No? Then you are a 'cultist' by definition.
You can stop your nonsense right there. Are you Catholic? No? Then you are a 'cultist' by definition.
Are you Catholic? The Deity of Christ is the acid test for biblical Christian vs pseudo-Christian cult. True Christians will not hesitate to say they worship Jesus as God. Those who are evasive usually have something to hide (Scientology, etc.).
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
Are you Catholic? The Deity of Christ is the acid test for biblical Christian vs pseudo-Christian cult. True Christians will not hesitate to say they worship Jesus as God. Those who are evasive usually have something to hide (Scientology, etc.).
Nope. Sorry, that's just doctrinal tyranny. There is not enough Scriptural potency for the Trinity to be anything more then simply a theology.
People like you distort that fact, and it is blasphemy of the Spirit to masquerade it as anything more. That is why the Church has been cursed for a good long time now and the more people there are like you, the more that curse is just going to stick around.
Nope. Sorry, that's just doctrinal tyranny. There is not enough Scriptural potency for the Trinity to be anything more then simply a theology.
People like you distort that fact, and it is blasphemy of the Spirit.
Either God is triune or not. Accept or reject it, but the issue is whether He is or not and whether it is biblical or not.
Again, some reject the trinity, but accept the Deity of Christ. Am I right to assume you reject both? If so, then what is the 'right' view of who Jesus is (Son of God is not specific enough since we must define what we mean by God, Son of God, Lord, etc.).
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
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