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Keeping His commandments are requirement for slavation, not the doctrine of trinity. - March 23rd, 2012, 08:59 AM

He are the verses to support my claim:

1. John 14:15
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“If you love Me, keep My commandments.

2. John 14:21
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He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”

3. John 15:10
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If you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

4. Acts 15:24
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Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, “You must be circumcised and keep the law” —to whom we gave no such commandment—)

5. 1 Corinthians 7:19
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Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.

6. 1 Timothy 6:14
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that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing,

7. 1 John 2:3
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The Test of Knowing Him ] Now by this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments.

8. 1 John 2:4
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He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

9. 1 John 3:22
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And whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do those things that are pleasing in His sight.

10. 1 John 3:24
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The Spirit of Truth and the Spirit of Error ] Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

11. 1 John 5:2
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By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and keep His commandments.

12. 1 John 5:3
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For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome.

13. Revelation 12:17
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And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

14. Revelation 14:12
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Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

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Mark 10
17 As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees(P) before him. “Good teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”(Q)
18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good—except God alone. 19 You know the commandments: ‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, you shall not defraud, honor your father and mother.’[d]”(R)
20 “Teacher,” he declared, “all these I have kept since I was a boy.”
21 Jesus looked at him and loved him. “One thing you lack,” he said. “Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor,(S) and you will have treasure in heaven.(T) Then come, follow me.”(U)

You see Jesus instructed how to inherit eternal life, meaning how to be saved. He did not say all you have to do is to believe Him.




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March 23rd, 2012, 09:02 AM

Trinity believers claim you are not saved and non-believer if you dont believe in the trinity. They are making up their own salvation against Jesus' word of requirement for salvation.



   
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March 23rd, 2012, 10:56 AM

Your problem is that you don't believe in the real Jesus.


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March 23rd, 2012, 11:02 AM

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Your problem is that you don't believe in the real Jesus.


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March 23rd, 2012, 11:38 AM

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Your problem is that you don't believe in the real Jesus.


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You see, this kind of comment is usurping Jesus' authority, and typical of trin believers.. And you dont even follow His commandments.

You are only a lip server and making judgments of others' salvation.



   
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March 23rd, 2012, 11:41 AM

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You see, this kind of comment is usurping Jesus' authority, and typical of trin believers.. And you dont even follow His commandments.

You are only a lip server and making judgments of others' salvation.
We will all find out soon enough wont we.



   
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March 23rd, 2012, 11:45 AM

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Sad but true.

You are lip server as well. Lip servers will not inherit God's kingdom. Listen to Jesus instead of making judgment other true believers salvation.


You always complain about me ignoring your meaningless posts, yet, you continually do the same thing when I give you another chance. Here you go with your being ignored.

BTW, you are grudge holder as well. It is hard believe of your age being so old.

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March 23rd, 2012, 11:50 AM

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You are lip server as well. Lip servers will not inherit God's kingdom. Listen to Jesus instead of making judgment other true believers salvation.


You always complain about me ignoring your meaningless posts, yet, you continually do the same thing when I give you another chance. Here you go with your being ignored.

BTW, you are grudge holder as well. It is hard believe of your age being so old.

good day.
I do not particularly care if you ignore me or not. Your problem is one of pride and not listening to those who possess wisdom and could be of help to you





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We will all find out soon enough wont we.
It is clear to the world in trinitarians' case. They are not fooling anyone but themselves.



   
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March 23rd, 2012, 11:57 AM

Doesn't everyone want to be slaved? After all only by keeping the commandments as taught by meshak can you be slaved.

Meshak alone is teaching the true doctrine of slavation.



   
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March 23rd, 2012, 12:01 PM

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Doesn't everyone want to be slaved? After all only by keeping the commandments as taught by meshak can you be slaved.
Read the op. Are they my word? You guys are something else. You make meaningless comments when your ego is hurt.

You should get rid or your ego and serve Jesus, instead, friend.



   
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Read the op. Are they my word? You guys are something else. You make meaningless comments when your ego is hurt.

You should get rid or your ego and serve Jesus, instead, friend.
And you need to understand why Jesus died, and that there is nothing you can do to meet the requirements of salvation.

I have no problem with teaching that we should keep Jesus commands, but when you teach it for salvation and not as an effect of it then your basically preaching that we earn our way to heaven.

Ephesians 2:8-9

Why do you continue to boast in your works Meshak?



   
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And you need to understand why Jesus died, and that there is nothing you can do to meet the requirements of salvation.

I have no problem with teaching that we should keep Jesus commands, but when you teach it for salvation and not as an effect of it then your basically preaching that we earn our way to heaven.

Ephesians 2:8-9

Why do you continue to boast in your works Meshak?





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March 23rd, 2012, 12:19 PM

she don't keep them anyway, so there's really nothing to boast about there.

If I had a nickle for every time I have personally witness meshak falsely accuse someone on this forum I would be a very wealthy man.

last time I checked it is a breaking of a commandment of God to do this even once.

although she seems to hate military which is understandable she lives by a similar slogan:

"I break more commandments by 5AM than most people do all day!"

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