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March 27th, 2012, 04:14 PM
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So tell me, am I wrong to feel insulted that you can see a man as an shining example of feminine beauty? Enough to be acknowledged as such among women?
Having a pervert as such in a women's beauty pageant is an insult to women.




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March 27th, 2012, 04:15 PM
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Well, actually, feminine beauty among women is the focus of this particular competition.

So tell me, am I wrong to feel insulted that you can see a man as an shining example of feminine beauty? Enough to be acknowledged as such among women?
Feminine beauty is not the exclusive property of people in female bodies; just as masculine beauty is not the exclusive property of people in male bodies.



   
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March 27th, 2012, 04:27 PM
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Feminine beauty is not the exclusive property of people in female bodies; just as masculine beauty is not the exclusive property of people in male bodies.
I'm not seeing a clear answer to my question.

Am I wrong to feel insulted that you can see a man as an shining example of feminine beauty? Enough to be acknowledged as such among women?
   
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March 27th, 2012, 04:33 PM
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I'm not seeing a clear answer to my question.

Am I wrong to feel insulted that you can see a man as an shining example of feminine beauty? Enough to be acknowledged as such among women?
I don't see why you should feel insulted in such a scenario.

I'm guessing that our difference of perspective comes from you seeing your womanhood as an absolute aspect of your identity? Obviously I don't actually know if that's the case.

I have a male body - but what I am, (what each of us is), transcends gender.
   
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March 27th, 2012, 05:00 PM
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I don't see why you should feel insulted in such a scenario.
Not quite answering my question, still. "Am I wrong to feel insulted..."
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I'm guessing that our difference of perspective comes from you seeing your womanhood as an absolute aspect of your identity? Obviously I don't actually know if that's the case.
I see feminine beauty as an aspect of womanhood. And so I ask if it's wrong to see a man being acknowledged as an example of feminine beauty among women as an insult.

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I have a male body - but what I am, (what each of us is), transcends gender.
No, actually. Gender does indeed effect one's behavior and overall psychology. It matters, to who you are, what gender you are. Feel free to try to establish your point, if you like.
   
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March 27th, 2012, 05:04 PM
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Not quite answering my question, still. "Am I wrong to feel insulted..."
"Right" and "wrong" have no meaning for me. And I'm guessing that's the end of this conversation, (if I can call it that)?
   
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March 27th, 2012, 05:13 PM
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"Right" and "wrong" have no meaning for me. And I'm guessing that's the end of this conversation, (if I can call it that)?
So...you're a psychopath, you say.



   
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March 27th, 2012, 05:38 PM
Well, despite the Maury show stumping me on many occasions I'm going to say no. They should have their own and leave the showcase of hot blondes to the hot blonde females.




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So...you're a psychopath, you say.
Looks like my guess was pretty accurate.
   
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March 27th, 2012, 10:41 PM
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Well, despite the Maury show stumping me on many occasions I'm going to say no. They should have their own and leave the showcase of hot blondes to the hot blonde females.

What about the brunettes... the redheads.... the raven haired.... the greys....... (not the little dudes with the big eyes and long arms - even I draw the line there) ??? !!!
   
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March 28th, 2012, 03:35 AM
If they can pass the Genetic test that proves they are female then yes..

Oh but they can't can they since their femaleness is just a delusion a way for them to try to deny that they are just a gay man who has given himself over to his lust for male anatomy. Thus they believe that if they act and dress like a woman then their sexual deviancy will be socially acceptable.



   
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March 28th, 2012, 04:32 AM
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"Right" and "wrong" have no meaning for me. And I'm guessing that's the end of this conversation, (if I can call it that)?
Yes, having no understanding of "right" and "wrong" does rather end the conversation, considering the topic.

Are you trying to blame me for having nothing to say here?
   
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March 28th, 2012, 06:06 AM
No. The only reason I would watch a beauty pageant is to oggle the attractive women who are competing. If I were to oggle someone whom I thought to be an attractive woman when, in fact, that person ended up being a guy...that'd just make me feel wrong.




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March 28th, 2012, 06:48 AM
Trannys are ridiculously absurd monsters, and therefore comedic gold.
i don't know about talent competitions, but they should definatly be allowed to participate in Mainstream Sports.
How funny would it be to see some she-monster get stomped by a 300lb line-backer, fore-checked into the boards, pummled by Mike Tyson or trying to seriously compete in Australian Rugby?
Dude. that be totallyhilarious, and, add some freak-show spectacle to the mix.




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Trannys are ridiculously absurd monsters, and therefore comedic gold.
i don't know about talent competitions, but they should definatly be allowed to participate in Mainstream Sports.
How funny would it be to see some she-monster get stomped by a 300lb line-backer, fore-checked into the boards, pummled by Mike Tyson or trying to seriously compete in Australian Rugby?
Dude. that be totallyhilarious, and, add some freak-show spectacle to the mix.
Something like the Roman gladiatorial circuses? Pap for the masses?
What kind of masses would that be?
   
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