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March 28th, 2012, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by keypurr
Education is a must in this world. A lot of folks will not take the time to home school their kids. Where do you think your tax dollar should go?
Your right, but the public education system isn't about education.
"Now be a good ole working stiff, that's what we trained you for. "
I hate to break it to the peeps, but your chances of being killed or wounded in a terrorist incident are so close to zero that they might as well be zero. Worry far more about slipping in the tub.
Remember folks, half the people in this country have IQs lower than 100. And many of them are registered Democrats.
They're not competent to school their own children. In fact, many of them are not able to raise their children well enough to succeed in public school. Imagine how dismally they'd fail without the little bit of learning they get now.
Where do you get your numbers from? We have great public schools in the North East. Perfect no, but better than most. The standards are high. Not every one is as dumb as I.
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Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
Your right, but the public education system isn't about education.
"Now be a good ole working stiff, that's what we trained you for. "
How about I just sit here and enjoy my retirement. You folks can work for me, I'm to tired. I helped put three kids in college and I have one more to go. If I last that long. My youngest grandson is a "Highest Honors" student in his freshman year in HS. He is also going for his Eagle Scout this summer. Schools are great here in MA. Oh I forgot to tell you, both my kids are Teachers. One has her Masters +++ and has taught in Public Schools for 28 years. So for me, the system worked.
Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
YEP, for the common good. What procedures are you refurring too? We all pay taxes for things we don't like. We send out money to other countries. Why pick on schools? That is where our best value for our tax dollar is.
I'm sorry but I disagree, keypurr. I was homeschool and public schooled. However I actually dislike the "school" word altogether and prefer to call it home education. I tell my kids if you call it school I will call you fish. Schools are for brainwashing.
You want to take them somewhere to learn, send them instead to an educational cooperative or "homeschool" club where parents and teachers collaborate for free to educate children on what interests them.
Schools are currently depressing, dangerous and a great place to become dependant on the system. It's like prison training, far from resembling college or any other place in real society. You can't even have best friends anymore in some schools. It's an emerging trend from overprotective boring teachers.
So there goes the last argument for public school after education was shot. Socialization is now going out the window. So much for that one.
You can also get TSA style full body pat downs, crotch and all for your prom. Or strip searched if the canine alerts to the fact that your dog at home is in heat. Or put on drugs if your teacher hates your questions and your parents are threatened by the school counselor. Or given potentially lethal prophylactic shots without your parents knowledge or permission. Or be taught how to have sexual contact with others as a teen, behind parents backs.
Even if you are in kindergarten, you could accidentally get your daddy arrested if you make a crayon drawing of a gun. And then there's the pink slime and other mystery foods that used to be in cat and dog food and is now in lunches. And some of this garbage is mandatory, the school will throw away health food in favor of their garbage.
How about I just sit here and enjoy my retirement. You folks can work for me, I'm to tired. I helped put three kids in college and I have one more to go. If I last that long. My youngest grandson is a "Highest Honors" student in his freshman year in HS. He is also going for his Eagle Scout this summer. Schools are great here in MA. Oh I forgot to tell you, both my kids are Teachers. One has her Masters +++ and has taught in Public Schools for 28 years. So for me, the system worked.
You should listen to a podcast called School Sucks, hosted by a teacher. He used to be in the public school system but couldn't stomach teaching propaganda and withholding the meat of the real story. But as teachers, you teach what they tell you, or else.
The only freedom for teachers to do the right thing consistently is in the private sector.
I went to public school. It apparently prepared me well enough to go to college and get my BA, which in turn apparently prepared me well enough for grad school. The system can work.
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Remember folks, half the people in this country have IQs lower than 100. And many of them are registered Democrats.
They're not competent to school their own children. In fact, many of them are not able to raise their children well enough to succeed in public school. Imagine how dismally they'd fail without the little bit of learning they get now.
All public school does for low IQ kids is prevent them from becoming the next Forrest Gump. Which I realize was a fictional story, but a great way of expressing how some people though "stupid" are really smarter than a lot of "smart" people. I've met their kind before.
It's amazing what a low IQ person can acheive when not boxed in by the depressing public school system.
But at the same time, we should have things like educational co-ops. They are becoming more and more common because now more than 5% of children actually learn at home and in their daily lives, instead of getting separated from society and business opportunities. A lot of pre-teen and teen homeschoolers are business owners. You can't run a business and go to school, but you only need a couple of hours in a weekday to more than make up for what you miss at "school."
Which kids do you think are happier, the ones who have no money and are bossed around all day, or the kids who shadow their parents and come up with their own businesses to own and run?
I went to public school. It apparently prepared me well enough to go to college and get my BA, which in turn apparently prepared me well enough for grad school. The system can work.
You mean, you worked within the system. You are an autodidact, are you not? Could you not have taught yourself 10X the material if your opportunities were more open to you? So you could completely geek out about something and be done with a whole grade level of something in just a couple of weeks, and be on to the next year, all while actually enjoying yourself, not being interrupted every 30 minutes?
What kinds of ridiculous question is this? We're not living in the late 18th and early 19th centuries any more , when life was totally different and kids didn't need the kind of education they need today.
How else could we educate the majority of kids ? There HAS to e a public school system. Most parents have to work for a living and they can't educate their own kids. We don't live in the time of one room schoolhouses of long ago. We live in a high tech society.
Don't want to pay taxes for schools? Well, if we had the kind of schools where all kids were subject to the kind of religious indoctrination and mandatory school prayer and Bible readings so many right-wingers tupidly want, I wouldn't want to pay tax dollars for this, either. Schools are places for TEACHING, not preaching.
Without good public schools, how could we prepare kids for college, or later ,medical ,law and graduate school? Most home-schooling parents do so because they are ignorant and backward people who stupidly want to shield thei r kids from learing about REAL science
and discussing topics such as homosexuality without being indoctrinated in homophobic bigotry and fundamentalist religious doctrine .
We all have to pay taxes for things we don't like, or the government and America as a whole would not be able to function.
I don't like paying taxes for the stupid, futile and disastprous Iraq war, but I had no choice.
I dpon't want to pay taxes for stupid and totally ineffective and counterproductive abstinence only sex education, or to support religigious organizations.
I DO want to pay taxes for the government to provide help for young people to attend college, gradate ,law and medical school and to become successful and provide America with the scientists, teachers, and other thinkers this nation needs so badly .
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March 29th, 2012, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by The Horn
What kinds of ridiculous question is this? We're not living in the late 18th and early 19th centuries any more , when life was totally different and kids didn't need the kind of education they need today.
How else could we educate the majority of kids ? There HAS to e a public school system. Most parents have to work for a living and they can't educate their own kids. We don't live in the time of one room schoolhouses of long ago. We live in a high tech society.
Don't want to pay taxes for schools? Well, if we had the kind of schools where all kids were subject to the kind of religious indoctrination and mandatory school prayer and Bible readings so many right-wingers tupidly want, I wouldn't want to pay tax dollars for this, either. Schools are places for TEACHING, not preaching.
Without good public schools, how could we prepare kids for college, or later ,medical ,law and graduate school? Most home-schooling parents do so because they are ignorant and backward people who stupidly want to shield thei r kids from learing about REAL science
and discussing topics such as homosexuality without being indoctrinated in homophobic bigotry and fundamentalist religious doctrine .
We all have to pay taxes for things we don't like, or the government and America as a whole would not be able to function.
I don't like paying taxes for the stupid, futile and disastprous Iraq war, but I had no choice.
I dpon't want to pay taxes for stupid and totally ineffective and counterproductive abstinence only sex education, or to support religigious organizations.
I DO want to pay taxes for the government to provide help for young people to attend college, gradate ,law and medical school and to become successful and provide America with the scientists, teachers, and other thinkers this nation needs so badly .
If we dont have public schools what do we do about the fact that it takes both parents with good educations working to maintain a solid middle class quality of life for the family?
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