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April 7th, 2012, 11:46 AM

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so many non answers... so boring...

anyhow...

if i was married (and etc) I'd have 15 children
You hold a high opinion of your genes, any one else share that view?

In most places, it seems that, the simplest people have the most children, and the state seemed to be saddled with helping them support their children.

That is, far less numbers of creative children are being brought forth by creative people whiles real large quantities of ordinary children are being brought forth by ordinary people.

The problem is that fewer and fewer creative people have to take care of more and more ordinary people. The world is being overwhelmed by more and more very less creative people and it takes creative people to sustains the world.

The world might soon crash (i.e. come to a crashing end) under the domination of the wisdom of the foolish, because of unchecked procreation by 'children of the flesh' and far less procreation by 'children of God'.

When God's kingdom of heaven descend to earth only children of God and their children will inherit earth, there will be no children of the flesh and their children on earth.

Abraham had two sons. One was born after the flesh. He was a child of the flesh. The other was born after the Spirit. He was a child of God. The child of the flesh persecuted the child of God. However Jesus through Paul confirmed, fear not, the child of the flesh will not be heir together with the child of God. Sad truth is that, only a few (the chosen few) will inherit God kingdom of heaven on earth. The great masses are simply misguided children of the flesh.



   
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April 7th, 2012, 12:27 PM

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You hold a high opinion of your genes, any one else share that view?

In most places, it seems that, the simplest people have the most children, and the state seemed to be saddled with helping them support their children.

That is, far less numbers of creative children are being brought forth by creative people whiles real large quantities of ordinary children are being brought forth by ordinary people.

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i got this far in the post

before your Nazist views began to make me sick

I'm glad i am a member of a Church that teaches that ALL humans are created in God's image, not just ... well, Aryans for example



   
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April 7th, 2012, 01:59 PM

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i think this post vilifies the Rs too much
I don't mean to vilify all Republicans. There are some I can vote for. The party apparatus, however is rotten to the core!
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so what if they are in favor of big business and not taxing it to death
I am too. I have never gotten a job from a poor person!
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we used to bethe most powerful nation in the world

now... if BHO has his way we will be like the former USSR

everything gov owned

no rich people (no jobs therefore)... Oh, wait, yes there woiuld still be rich people... those who operate the governemnt... (roll eyes smiley)

and etc..

I'm relatively "poor" but i do NOT begrude the rich their $$.. They inherited or earned it but in any case it is THEIRS

if i want money i know how to earn it... and so does every "poor" person... and i dare say there are NOT many of those in this country... There are NONE according to MY definition (and many others' definitions as well)...








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April 7th, 2012, 06:53 PM

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i got this far in the post

before your Nazist views began to make me sick

I'm glad i am a member of a Church that teaches that ALL humans are created in God's image, not just ... well, Aryans for example
Just my point look at how easily you got sick. 15 more like you with weak stomachs and the health budget bankrupt.

Is everyone in your church like you? . . . . . sickly and want to have 15 children?

You said: "I'm glad i am a member of a Church that teaches that ALL humans are created in God's image".

You seem to using that statement to say that all humans are equal.

Where did you get that from? . . . . . Not the KJV N.T. What religions is practiced in your Church? What book you all use?

Come onto Christianity and you will learn about Truth according to the Lord Jesus. He is the Truth, the way and the life.

Lord Jesus confirmed that every body is not the same. There are children of the flesh and children of God.

As far as I know Jesus and God does not love 'the dead'. The dead is the spiritually dead or children of the flesh or Satan.

Here is what the Lord Jesus confirmed:

When God's kingdom of heaven descend to earth only children of God and their children will inherit earth, there will be no children of the flesh and their children on earth.

Abraham had two sons. One was born after the flesh. He was a child of the flesh. The other was born after the Spirit. He was a child of God. The child of the flesh persecuted the child of God. However Jesus through Paul confirmed, fear not, the child of the flesh will not be heir together with the child of God. Sad truth is that, only a few (the chosen few) will inherit God kingdom of heaven on earth. The great masses are simply misguided children of the flesh.

When you and your church say that All humans are created in the image of God are you all claiming that All humans will be chosen?

Jesus confirmed that many are called but few chosen. Are you all saying that the Lord Jesus is mistaken?

What book are you all using? Is it better than the KJV N.T?

Seem that Jesus wants to convey that although everyone one is created in the image of God, not everyone is automatically saved and chosen. Some have fallen from Grace. So all is not the same.




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But what does JESUS say?

Hmmm... Jesus... Remember him, Obami??
I think I'm going to file this under "unjustifiably smug".





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April 9th, 2012, 05:05 PM

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Just my point look at how easily you got sick. 15 more like you with weak stomachs and the health budget bankrupt.

Is everyone in your church like you? . . . . . sickly and want to have 15 children?

You said: "I'm glad i am a member of a Church that teaches that ALL humans are created in God's image".

You seem to using that statement to say that all humans are equal.

Where did you get that from? . . . . . Not the KJV N.T. What religions is practiced in your Church? What book you all use?

Come onto Christianity and you will learn about Truth according to the Lord Jesus. He is the Truth, the way and the life.

Lord Jesus confirmed that every body is not the same. There are children of the flesh and children of God.

As far as I know Jesus and God does not love 'the dead'. The dead is the spiritually dead or children of the flesh or Satan.

Here is what the Lord Jesus confirmed:

When God's kingdom of heaven descend to earth only children of God and their children will inherit earth, there will be no children of the flesh and their children on earth.

Abraham had two sons. One was born after the flesh. He was a child of the flesh. The other was born after the Spirit. He was a child of God. The child of the flesh persecuted the child of God. However Jesus through Paul confirmed, fear not, the child of the flesh will not be heir together with the child of God. Sad truth is that, only a few (the chosen few) will inherit God kingdom of heaven on earth. The great masses are simply misguided children of the flesh.

When you and your church say that All humans are created in the image of God are you all claiming that All humans will be chosen?

Jesus confirmed that many are called but few chosen. Are you all saying that the Lord Jesus is mistaken?

What book are you all using? Is it better than the KJV N.T?

Seem that Jesus wants to convey that although everyone one is created in the image of God, not everyone is automatically saved and chosen. Some have fallen from Grace. So all is not the same.
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April 13th, 2012, 01:17 PM

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i think this post vilifies the Rs too much

so what if they are in favor of big business and not taxing it to death

we used to bethe most powerful nation in the world

now... if BHO has his way we will be like the former USSR

everything gov owned

no rich people (no jobs therefore)... Oh, wait, yes there woiuld still be rich people... those who operate the governemnt... (roll eyes smiley)

and etc..

I'm relatively "poor" but i do NOT begrude the rich their $$.. They inherited or earned it but in any case it is THEIRS

if i want money i know how to earn it... and so does every "poor" person... and i dare say there are NOT many of those in this country... There are NONE according to MY definition (and many others' definitions as well)...
The time immediately after WW2 was the most prosporus time in the USA, corporations and the rich were taxed MUCH more and they were prevented from exporting jobs and factories over seas through inport/export tax and treason laws. Some of the tech that is being set up in china would have litterally had you thrown in jail for treason if not executed back during WW2 time frame. The republicans are running amock and fleasing this entire nation with their graft and greed.

That being said the dems are not much better with all their tax and spend social programs but at least they are pro education. IF the republicans had it their way they would privatize K-12 and only the super rich could send their kids to school so you would have a cast system in full swing, then you ban abortion and you have yourself a nice little slave class because adults are going to have sex and once the religious right cut off the supply of birth control you will have a flood of babies that will become the next corporate slaves.

Inovation can only take you so far, if you dont have the money to defend a patent in court your intellectual property will be stolen from you faster than you can sneeze. Also the costs of higher education such as science and engineering which is needed to give one the knowlage base from which to innovate is becomming cost prohibitivly expensive for most people starting off. So saying "inovate" is really too simple of an answer.

The graft and greed need to be delt with before we can even touch the abortion issue, the resoruces and support need to be in place for every baby that is born, otherwise your asking for trouble.



   
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The time immediately after WW2 was the most prosporus time in the USA, corporations and the rich were taxed MUCH more and they were prevented from exporting jobs and factories over seas through inport/export tax and treason laws. Some of the tech that is being set up in china would have litterally had you thrown in jail for treason if not executed back during WW2 time frame. The republicans are running amock and fleasing this entire nation with their graft and greed.

That being said the dems are not much better with all their tax and spend social programs but at least they are pro education. IF the republicans had it their way they would privatize K-12 and only the super rich could send their kids to school so you would have a cast system in full swing, then you ban abortion and you have yourself a nice little slave class because adults are going to have sex and once the religious right cut off the supply of birth control you will have a flood of babies that will become the next corporate slaves.

Inovation can only take you so far, if you dont have the money to defend a patent in court your intellectual property will be stolen from you faster than you can sneeze. Also the costs of higher education such as science and engineering which is needed to give one the knowlage base from which to innovate is becomming cost prohibitivly expensive for most people starting off. So saying "inovate" is really too simple of an answer.

The graft and greed need to be delt with before we can even touch the abortion issue, the resoruces and support need to be in place for every baby that is born, otherwise your asking for trouble.
of course Dems are pro education

as long as THEY control education

which they more/less do in the public schools



   
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everyone should home school... or if unable to

should definitely complain when the public schools go "off" in their teaching, which is the case 9 times out of 10



   
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April 13th, 2012, 01:57 PM

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everyone should home school... or if unable to

should definitely complain when the public schools go "off" in their teaching, which is the case 9 times out of 10
The problem is until you fix corporate greed, most families cant afford to not having both parents working and maintian some semblance of a quality of life, thus homeschool for most is not a viable option. Also alot of parents dont have the education themselves to adaquatly teach their kids because everyone is scrambling to survive in this surf class the rich are creating.

EVERYthing ties back to corporate greed, peoples hands are tied when thier labor has a much lower value in comparison to the WW2 generations. People have to have 2 incomes now to maintian a decent middle class life, the familes you see doing the whole homeschool bit and growing food are usually living below the poverty line, which I guess is ok for someone who has absolutly no aspirations towards anything that costs money other than growing food and homeschooling and doing odd jobs and playing the harmonica.



   
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The problem is until you fix corporate greed, most families cant afford to not having both parents working and maintian some semblance of a quality of life, thus homeschool for most is not a viable option. Also alot of parents dont have the education themselves to adaquatly teach their kids because everyone is scrambling to survive in this surf class the rich are creating.

EVERYthing ties back to corporate greed, peoples hands are tied when thier labor has a much lower value in comparison to the WW2 generations. People have to have 2 incomes now to maintian a decent middle class life, the familes you see doing the whole homeschool bit and growing food are usually living below the poverty line, which I guess is ok for someone who has absolutly no aspirations towards anything that costs money other than growing food and homeschooling and doing odd jobs and playing the harmonica.
If you believe anyone is holding you back, you are defeated already! There are any number of ways to get ahead in this country that have nothing to do with corporations. You are, by the way, a fool to mock people because they choose to grow their own food!








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If you believe anyone is holding you back, you are defeated already! There are any number of ways to get ahead in this country that have nothing to do with corporations. You are, by the way, a fool to mock people because they choose to grow their own food!
I'm not mocking them it just demonstrates that there labor is worth so little that they can't make more in an hour than the food is worth since most food is planted and harvested with big machines.

That is the problem, we are such a rich country why does any one willing to work have to jump through their back side for a meager wage, it's because corp America pulls the strings. If someone has to grow food to make it then so be it but the more people that have to do that the closer we are to collapse and potential civil war



   
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April 14th, 2012, 01:36 AM

The democratic party and children: We don't care one bit about you until you are born. At that point, we want to make sure you have opportunities, are safe, and have a quality education even if you have terrible parents.

The republician party and children: We care about what happens to you before you are born. Once you are born, you're on your own. You better hope you had good parents, because if you didn't, you are screwed.

I must say that the democratic party approach is quite a bit more appealing.





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I'm not mocking them it just demonstrates that there labor is worth so little that they can't make more in an hour than the food is worth since most food is planted and harvested with big machines.

That is the problem, we are such a rich country why does any one willing to work have to jump through their back side for a meager wage, it's because corp America pulls the strings. If someone has to grow food to make it then so be it but the more people that have to do that the closer we are to collapse and potential civil war
Your premise is completely flawed. You don't have to work for or own shares in a corporation to do well. You do need to be creative motivated and work hard. Is that too much to ask?








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The problem is until you fix corporate greed, most families cant afford to not having both parents working and maintian some semblance of a quality of life, .
readthis far

dont buy it

Chidlren are more important than making X number of $$ every month

quality life is more than material things.

i know someone who was POOR (reltively spkg) and she home schooled her children...

while in the publicschool down the street they were teaching the children that being gay was just another lifestyle...



   
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