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Slogan/motto:
"To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus." Ro 3:26
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April 2nd, 2012, 01:18 PM
I personally need the rcc as a giant example of the broad way. It is a very useful evangelical tool that provides a robust, living example of religion as opposed to relationship.
It is also fun to look up the word "church" in the New testament and show people that it never refers to a building or religious institution but rather a living organism. It's the nail in the coffin and it works every time.
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. If you deny that basic truth, you cannot be saved. God came to save you, you cannot be saved if you do not believe in Him as He is.
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Everyone needs the RCC because that is the Church Christ founded on Earth and only HIS Church knows how to get us to Heaven
When i spend time with Jesus in said Church - where His Real Presence abides 24/7 - i experience what i must experience before i am ready for Heaven
maybe the reason Jesus said so few find the narrow way
is because not many people do this...
They get caught up in the unreal world
(outside the Church)
and what is unreal becomes "real" to them
yet it is NOT real... not of God...
they are separated from Christ and don't even know it
Silly me. I always thought that Jesus had done it all for us.
Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
It's the nail in the coffin and it works every time.
Not so far...
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
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April 2nd, 2012, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CabinetMaker
Silly me. I always thought that Jesus had done it all for us.
He did. What's your point...? (Now we simply wait for the incoming non sequitur...)
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
I have told you before that I will not debate with your links. If you are capable of stringing two points together so as to produce logical argument for your position, please do so. If you would rather copy and paste from your links, please do so.
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. If you deny that basic truth, you cannot be saved. God came to save you, you cannot be saved if you do not believe in Him as He is.
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Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
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April 2nd, 2012, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Choleric
I have told you before that I will not debate with your links.
All I've linked to here is a list of biblical texts and statements from the writings of the early Christian Church. Consider them, or don't. If the latter, then your transparent excuse is noted.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
Slogan/motto:
"To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus." Ro 3:26
Reputation:
April 2nd, 2012, 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cruciform
All I've linked to here is a list of biblical texts and statements from the writings of the early Christian Church. Consider them, or don't. If the latter, then your transparent excuse is noted.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
All I have asked is that you copy and paste. If it is just a list of biblical texts, then produce them here. If not, then your inability to think for yourself is once again noted.
Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. If you deny that basic truth, you cannot be saved. God came to save you, you cannot be saved if you do not believe in Him as He is.
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No one ever needed the Catholic Church which was man's invention as that bogus story in the Gospels tells us where Jesus supposedly gives the "keys to the kingdom" to Peter which is only a retelling of the Roman Janus Pater pagan mythology. Peter is Janus Pater who was the "keeper of the keys to the kingdom of God" and the keeper of the Doorway to God.
It was deliberately done to take the center of Christian theology out of Palestine and Jerusalem to give it to Rome for Roman control which is what Paul and the Church Fathers wanted all along. They had no religious authority among Jews so it was to Gentiles the Church Fathers turned to set themselves up in a new priesthood and lifelong jobs and social status.
The Catholic Church was never any center of Christian teachings except to those who believed the Church held more spiritual authority than the Word of God that those who hear Jesus' voice respond to. Read what Jesus said about not calling anyone on earth your father yet the whole Catholic Church is based upon denial of Jesus' teaching here. Churches, group mind think religions in general are to be avoided if you want spiritual truth about God and the Spirit of Christ.
He did. What's your point...? (Now we simply wait for the incoming non sequitur...)
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
Isn't it obvious?
Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
Reputation:
April 2nd, 2012, 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Choleric
All I have asked is that you copy and paste. If it is just a list of biblical texts, then produce them here. If not, then your inability to think for yourself is once again noted.
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
Slogan/motto:
Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
Reputation:
April 2nd, 2012, 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CabinetMaker
Isn't it obvious?
'Fraid not...
Please enlighten us.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
April 2nd, 2012, 02:18 PM
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