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What are you talking about. There is a big difference between post-cross Pauline tongues (I Cor. 12-14), Pauline repentance (in line with Christ), and OT animal sacrifices, Levitical priesthoods, etc.
This is why I would not get my theology from the wild west of the internet and guys like Dan who lack insight and credibility and have uncritically fallen for a false teaching.
The mystery relates to Jew and Gentile one in Christ in the Church (vs Israel), not MAD's two gospel post-cross error.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
What are you talking about. There is a big difference between post-cross Pauline tongues (I Cor. 12-14), Pauline repentance (in line with Christ), and OT animal sacrifices, Levitical priesthoods, etc.
This is why I would not get my theology from the wild west of the internet and guys like Dan who lack insight and credibility and have uncritically fallen for a false teaching.
The mystery relates to Jew and Gentile one in Christ in the Church (vs Israel), not MAD's two gospel post-cross error.
Hi and I have shown that there are more then 6 Gospels and that Paul's Gospel has more than 9 more that are descripted of the Gospel of the Grace of God .
But I believe that Satan has BLINDED you and that you are IGNORANT of his devices , 2 Cor 2:11 !!
Then you have been BEGUILDED and CORRUPTED from the simplicity that is in Christ , 2 Cor 11:3 !!
Rejecting MAD or any dispensational theory is not an essential, salvific issue. Applying verses about gross deception vs doctrinal disputes (I agree with you on most Pauline core truth but disagree about circ for a limited time before Paul) to fellow believers is galling and idiotic.
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
#1 , a devout man
#2 , one that feared God
#3 , gave to Israel
#4 , and prayed to God
Where did Peter direct Cornelius to repent at ? Peter directed some jews to repent in Acts 2:38, but He never once told Cornelius to repent. Cornelius was already a Just and Righteous Man before God, one that already feared and worshiped God. Acts 10:22
And they said, Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee.
Rom 2:28-29
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Rejecting MAD or any dispensational theory is not an essential, salvific issue. Applying verses about gross deception vs doctrinal disputes (I agree with you on most Pauline core truth but disagree about circ for a limited time before Paul) to fellow believers is galling and idiotic.
it's not idiotic and galling to some people, and in fact quite the troubling issue for many.
Although Unintellectual gave the best reference that repentance is a gift from God, neither side of the debate IMHO put forth enough effort to bring all collaborating scripture to the table, leaving many to go which ever way....
to me that is the biggest shortcoming of any disciple/shepherdman.
it's not idiotic and galling to some people, and in fact quite the troubling issue for many.
Although Unintellectual gave the best reference that repentance is a gift from God, neither side of the debate IMHO put forth enough effort to bring all collaborating scripture to the table, leaving many to go which ever way....
to me that is the biggest shortcoming of any disciple/shepherdman.
keep shinin
jerm
Hi , and their is no shortcomings with Acts 26:20 , because all have to Bring forth " WORKS " proving their Repentance .
This is " NO BRAINER " that Repentance is never required as Referenced in 1 Cor 2:14 , because the Natural man does not have the Capacity to Repent , when all are Dead in Trepasses and Sins , dan p
Nice mixing of MAD and Calvinism? Repentant faith and continuance in the faith are the conditions of salvation/perseverance. Repentance is a Pauline theme as well as one throughout Scripture (but you rationalize it away to fit your preconceived error).
Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)
They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")
Nice mixing of MAD and Calvinism? Repentant faith and continuance in the faith are the conditions of salvation/perseverance. Repentance is a Pauline theme as well as one throughout Scripture (but you rationalize it away to fit your preconceived error).
Hi , and if what you say is true , LET'S have the verses , instead of Flapping your gums !!
The Gospel of the Kingdom is all Repentance and Paul preachs GRACE !!
Since you say that the Body of Christ began in Acts 2 , HOW ARE THE SACRIFICE COMING ALONG , and How is your Priest ??
Slogan/motto:
Mat 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
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May 5th, 2012, 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DAN P
Hi to all , and when I had posted that we do not have to repent , I knew , that many would be in opposition .
Many were looking up the word " Repentance " and then say , Dan p is crazy , because here in Matt 3:2 , John is saying to Repent !!
In Matt 4:17 , even Jesus says to Repent !!
But we know that John and Jesus are speaking to the Nation of Israel !!
In , Heb 6:6 , if Israel falls away , they will never be able to Repent again , SINCE they Rejected Christ as MESSIAH and in Acts 28:25-31 , they were set aside .
Then many refer me to Acts 26:20 , here , even the Gentiles are called to repent and now get out of this corner , dan p!!
Here is a word for word translation of Acts 26:20 , as Paul is speaking to King Agrippa !!
But proclaiming first to the ones in Damascus and at Jerusalem , and to all the region of Judea and to the Gentiles to REPENT and to turn unto God , DOING WORKS , befitting the change of mind , which to REPENT !!
They say to me , SEE , SEE , here it is , we all have too Repent , can't dan p , see it , an yes I see it !!
In Acts 10:2 we see a Gentile that ;
#1 , a devout man
#2 , one that feared God
#3 , gave to Israel
#4 , and prayed to God
And this is what Acts 26:20 , means when speaking to Gentiles in Christ time !!
BUT , those in Opposition to my OP , just see one thing in verse 20 " REPENT " and never read the rest of that verse and this what they MISS !!
I highlighted it " DOING WORKS " , WHEW , and how does , those who believe in Repentance , HANDLE it now ??
All who read Matt 3:7-8 , Matthew told the Pharisees and Saducees to bring FRUIT , or Works of Repentance , because John refused to water baptism them .
We are never told to SHOW FRUIT or DOING WORKS before Repentance and Salvation , are we ?
DAN P
Rom 2:3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
Rom 2:4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
Rom 2:5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
Rom 2:6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
Rom 2:7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
Rom 2:8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Rom 2:9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
Rom 2:10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
Rom 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
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