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May 8th, 2012, 10:28 AM
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I always do.

The typical teaching is that 120 men and women were filled with the Spirit and spoke in tongues, and then practically all of Jerusalem.

The scripture doesn't say that.
Acts 2:13 would be impossible if this were the case




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May 8th, 2012, 10:29 AM
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Acts 2:4 (KJV)
Corrected.

Acts 1:15 At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty persons was there together), and said,

Acts 2:1 When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place.




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May 8th, 2012, 10:30 AM
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I always do.

The typical teaching is that 120 men and women were filled with the Spirit and spoke in tongues, and then practically all of Jerusalem.

The scripture doesn't say that.
I don't believe all of Jerusalem.




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May 8th, 2012, 10:31 AM
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Acts 2:1 When the day of Pentecost had come, they were all together in one place.
Who was all together?

Acts 1:26




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May 8th, 2012, 10:35 AM
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Who was all together?

Acts 1:26
I believe that is the question. I don't assume the text says men.




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May 8th, 2012, 10:37 AM
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I believe that is the question. I don't assume the text says men.
How can you not see that "they" in Acts 2:1 is a direct reference to the people in Acts 1:26

That's a bit irresponsible.




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May 8th, 2012, 10:38 AM
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How can you not see that "they" in Acts 2:1 is a direct reference to the people in Acts 1:26

That's a bit irresponsible.
The word I heard was "men".

So where in the text do we see the word "men"?

Those in Acts 1:26, were they among the 120?




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May 8th, 2012, 10:44 AM
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The word I heard was "men".

So where in the text do we see the word "men"?

Those in Acts 1:26, were they among the 120?
Act 2:13, 37 KJV

[13] Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. ...

[37] Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men [and] brethren, what shall we do?

Who is the "others" and "they" if "all" in Acts 2:1 meant everyone there?




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May 8th, 2012, 10:55 AM
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[13] Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. ...
Traditions die hard. Even with something as simple as this. It's hard to just believe what you read.

So much for the claims of easy believism. Believing God is probably the hardest thing for man to do.




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May 8th, 2012, 11:46 AM
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Act 2:13, 37 KJV

[13] Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. ...

[37] Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men [and] brethren, what shall we do?

Who is the "others" and "they" if "all" in Acts 2:1 meant everyone there?
What you are saying is that because they wanted to talk to Peter and the rest of the apostles, the 120 did not receive the Holy Spirit (37).

(13) has "men".

The 120 brethren included women.

Acts 1:14 These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.

Acts 1:15 At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty persons was there together), and said,




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What you are saying is that because they wanted to talk to Peter and the rest of the apostles, the 120 did not receive the Holy Spirit (37).

(13) has "men".

The 120 brethren included women.

Acts 1:14 These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to prayer, along with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers.

Acts 1:15 At this time Peter stood up in the midst of the brethren (a gathering of about one hundred and twenty persons was there together), and said,
Your using verses from a different context!

Acts 2:1 was at a later time, which is referencing the 12 from Acts 1:26...




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It says that they were all filled, and spoke with tongues, and that they were men.

Were there women among the 120?
This is a historical, Jewish convention. I think the feeding of the 5000 counted men, but women/children also were present/eating. As well, 'man/men' can refer to humans including women just as brothers/sons of God can also apply to women (hence translators in English sometimes say people/person vs son/man, etc.). Acts 2 says the outpouring was for sons, daughters, men, women, all people.




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Your using verses from a different context!

Acts 2:1 was at a later time, which is referencing the 12 from Acts 1:26...
Why Acts 1:26 and not Acts 1:15 which is the context for Acts 1:26?

It's a different context. Appears you may be right. Excuse me, it is the same context.




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So much for the claims of easy believism. Believing God is probably the hardest thing for man to do.
Hell will be full.




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