Real Science Friday: Stars in Galaxy Bulges "Look Too Perfect"
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* "Surprisingly Orderly" Star Clusters in Spiral Galaxies: Those who believe in naturalist origins are forever dismayed or even shocked by the latest discoveries because scientific observations typically contradict the fundamental predictions of atheistic origins. (One small example: Most animals reproduce sexually, yet Darwinism would never predict sexual reproduction.) Thus while the Big Bang model predicted that the bulge of stars in the center of spiral galaxies resulted from millions of years of collisions, as reported in Creation magazine and in the New Scientist article, Galaxies too good to be true, Princeton University cosmologist Jim Peebles admitted that, "It's really an embarrassment." And cosmologist John Kormendy says that the prinstine bulges "were something of a shock" and "look rather too perfect." To which Bob and Fred say and about which Spike Psarris created the greatest astronomy DVDs ever made (Vol. I & Vol. II).
* And for Good Measure: Venus rotates backwards, "Hot Jupiter" gas giants exist near their suns, and some exoplanets orbit their stars backwards!
* Life Uses Left-Handed Amino Acids: The amino acids in "Dinosaur-era" fossils still have not racemized to their 50-50 mixture. And even if evolution could segregate out just left-handed acids, it must get them in the right order, and then somehow fold them correctly, and if all that happened, you'd still have only one dead protein.
* Dutch Reverands are Atheists Dodging the Death Vans: One out of six ministers in Holland are atheist or agnostic, and many of the elderly there are afraid of being euthanized, and now, the country is launching a fleet of mobile euthanasia vans to bring back housecalls for that personal touch!
[Knock knock.] "Hi. We're from the government. We heard that you might be lonely."
"Well, yes, I am a bit lonely. Would you be my friend?"
"Well, not exactly. But we'll be happy to kill you."
The guys also talk about the current issue of the Journal of Medical Ethics that advocates for the legalization of infanticide so that parents can kill their newborn babies in the first months of life.
* Dolphin Sonar & Honey Bees Beat Super Computers: Dolphins can see a tennis ball 260 feet.away and, as we've discussed previously, honey bees can solve enormously complex mathematical problems far more quickly than can a super computer, and using only a millionth of the energy.
* FIND OUT WHO KNOWS WHY PIGS WALLOW IN MUD: Do Darwinist scientists, or the hosts of Real Science Friday, have a better explanation of why pigs wallow in mud? And in a related story, why does your tile countertop feel cooler than your wooden table?
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April 8th, 2012, 04:10 PM
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(One small example: Most animals reproduce sexually, yet Darwinism would never predict sexual reproduction.)
In fact, Darwinian theory can accurately predict which sorts of organisms will reproduce asexually.
Turns out, asexual reproduction works better for organisms not challenged much by parasites or diseases. For the rest of us, sexual reproduction works better to spread new resistance strategies and to keep old ones handy for future use.
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In fact, Darwinian theory can accurately predict which sorts of organisms will reproduce asexually. Turns out, asexual reproduction works better for organisms not challenged much by parasites or diseases. For the rest of us, sexual reproduction works better to spread new resistance strategies and to keep old ones handy for future use.
Or else asexual reproduction means greater resistance to parasites and disease. Sounds like the evolutionists have reversed another causitive relationship in order to invent more flawed evidence.
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April 8th, 2012, 08:31 PM
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Or else asexual reproduction means greater resistance to parasites and disease.
No. For example, you see that trend in reptiles. Whiptail lizards, for example.
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Sounds like the evolutionists have reversed another causitive relationship in order to invent more flawed evidence.
It's testable. Whiptail species include asexual and sexual ones. The advantage in being asexual, is twice as many of your genes get reproduced. The downside is a lack of genetic diversity, which makes a population more vulnerable to parasites and disease.
The "hybrid vigor" of animal breeders is an example of that effect. Likewise, monocultures of asexually reproducing organisms, like the Irish potatoes are an example of the downside of asexuality.
No. For example, you see that trend in reptiles. Whiptail lizards, for example.
And now you're actively engaging in the fallacy of correlation equating to causation. Pays to think rationally about your ideas when faced with an alternative.
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It's testable.
Remember your assertion? Your assertion is that the creatures are this way because darwinian theory predicts it. Telling us again that they are this way is not evidence for your assertion.
Two logical fallacies and counting.
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As usual, you put your foot in it, Stipe.
I've said nothing wrong.
But this is probably just another attempt at a logical fallacy. Ad hominem, in this case. Are you out to break some kind of record?
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April 9th, 2012, 06:35 AM
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No. For example, you see that trend in reptiles. Whiptail lizards, for example. The advantage in being asexual, is twice as many of your genes get reproduced. The downside is a lack of genetic diversity, which makes a population more vulnerable to parasites and disease.
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And now you're actively engaging in the fallacy of correlation equating to causation.
Nope. It's been directly observed to be that way. The Irish potato famine was caused by this effect. One strain, asexually reproduced by cutting and planting "eyes", had become all there was, because it was so productive. One pathogen wiped all of it out.
That's how it works, Stipe.
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Pays to think rationally about your ideas when faced with an alternative.
"Rational" would be looking at the real world instead of depending on your imagination.
It's testable.
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Remember your assertion? Your assertion is that the creatures are this way because darwinian theory predicts it.
No. Darwinian theory predicts it, because the theory is an accurate description of the real world. And now you're actively engaging in the fallacy of correlation equating to causation.
Two logical fallacies and counting.
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As usual, you put your foot in it, Stipe.
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I've said nothing wrong.
You've done the usual creationist thing about "reality can't be that way, because it doesn't fit my beliefs."
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But this is probably just another attempt at a logical fallacy. Ad hominem, in this case. Are you out to break some kind of record?
In fact, Darwinian theory can accurately predict which sorts of organisms will reproduce asexually.
Turns out, asexual reproduction works better for organisms not challenged much by parasites or diseases. For the rest of us, sexual reproduction works better to spread new resistance strategies and to keep old ones handy for future use.
It's as if they think everything about evolutionary theory, thinking, and research ended when Darwin died. They literally can't think of Darwin or his work in anything less than their own religious terms. It's as if they don't realize how much has changed since 1882 or Origins's publication.
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It's as if they think everything about evolutionary theory, thinking, and research ended when Darwin died. They literally can't think of Darwin or his work in anything less than their own religious terms.
Well he did write a big Book.
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It's as if they think everything about evolutionary theory, thinking, and research ended when Darwin died. They literally can't think of Darwin or his work in anything less than their own religious terms. It's as if they don't realize how much has changed since 1882 or Origins's publication.
Hi, coward.
Actually it's like this:
The evolutionist uses darwinian theory to say asexual reproduction works better for organisms not challenged much by parasites or diseases. The reverse might be true instead. Asexual reproduction might mean greater resistance to parasites and disease.
If you agree there is a causal relationship between those two things, which way do you think it goes and why?