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toldailytopic: Can a saved person lose their salvation?
Nope. The Bible is full of verses that support the concept of the permanence of salvation.
John 3:16 - For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
John 6:37 - All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.
John 10:28-29 - And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand.
Romans 8:38-39 - For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they were of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out so that it might be revealed that they were not all of us.
1Co 1:8 He shall also confirm you to the end, that you may be blameless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Heb 7:25 Therefore He is able also to save to the uttermost those who come unto God by Him, since He ever lives to make intercession for them.
Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that works in us,
to Him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, forever. Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21
1Co 13:11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. But when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. - Let's at least work at it?
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April 9th, 2012, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chrysostom
Can a saved person lose their salvation?
I don't think so but
the real question is
are you saved?
I don't think so
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April 9th, 2012, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by John Mortimer
With respect... you don't believe in salvation. Or is it that you believe there's an angry God who saves you and then you blow it??!! If so - that "God" ain't no God.
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Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
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April 9th, 2012, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by elohiym
Then I hope you don't die before then.
You don't understand the difference between being made free from sin and receiving everlasting life.
Romans 6:22
But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
2 Peter 2:20
For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
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Isaiah 33:14 The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
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April 9th, 2012, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by genuineoriginal
You don't understand the difference between being made free from sin and receiving everlasting life.
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toldailytopic: Can a saved person lose their salvation?
I believe that John 14:6 is the only way to redemption, and that Romans 10:8-13 is the solution, and one is saved, therefore, no, I do not believe a saved person can lose their salvation. I believe that we are hidden in Jesus, safe and secure, just as it was stated in post posts by...
Mary Contrary in post #2
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Tambora in post #8
and
Bright Raven in post #11
and
Inzl Kett in post #18
and others who believe the same of the believer's security.
I do not believe that Jesus would die to save us and then change His mind after we accept that wonderful, good and perfect gift.
.....O LORD my God, in You I put my trust. Psalm 7:1
.....To You, O LORD, I lift up my soul. Psalm 25:1
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Then I hope you don't die before then.
April 9th, 2012, 03:36 PM
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