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"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person." Hebrews 1:1-3
"Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:
In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" Colossians 1:12-15
"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." 2 Corinthians 2:4
"The concepts which now prove to be fundamental to our understanding of nature...seem to my mind to be structures of pure thought...the unvierse begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine." - Sir James Jeans
Having read the gospel accounts of Jesus many times, I am of the opinion he was possibly a charismatic preacher, but certainly no god. I suspect his followers talked him up.
You have no evidence for that statement anymore than you can prove any deity actually exists.
Rather, he has no evidence that you would accept as valid. The nature of faith is that we do not have the evidence that would prove the existence of God in a court of law. None the less, we experience God everyday so we know that He is real and that He is with us. We don't need the proof to believe.
See is not believing, believing is seeing. You want to see before you will believe whereas God wants you to believe before you can see.
Galatians 5:22-23 (New International Version)
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Slogan/motto:
"Love separates for the sake of union." - Rumi
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April 10th, 2012, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bradley D
So are we!
"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (Genesis 1:27).
Yes, we are. Moreover, Adam was the son of God.
"Which was [the son] of Adam, which was [the son] of God." Luke 3:38
What does this imply?
It implies that both the "first Adam" and the "last Adam" were the Son of God.
"And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit." 1 Corinthians 15:45
It should also be noted that we are all in the first Adam even as we are all in the last Adam (i.e. "Christ").
"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." 1 Corinthians 15:22
"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Revlation 22:13
"And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one." John 17:22-23
The "they" and "we" are to be made "perfect in one" even as the "I" and "thou" are perfect in one. (We are in Christ even as Christ is in us, and God is in Christ even as Christ is in God. This is the Christian doctrine of the "perichoresis" - the "mutual indwelling.")
"But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away." 1 Corinthians 13:10
"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." 1 Corinthians 13:12
"The Son whom God created is as free as God created him. He was reborn the instant that he chose to die instead of live." - A Course in Miracles
"The concepts which now prove to be fundamental to our understanding of nature...seem to my mind to be structures of pure thought...the unvierse begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine." - Sir James Jeans
Slogan/motto:
"Love separates for the sake of union." - Rumi
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April 10th, 2012, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by biomystic
No, it's true. Christ is the image of God and once you know where to look, that image can always be found as the image of humanity.
"God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him." 1 John 4:16
"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." 1 Corinthians 13:12
"Acknowledging Christ in all our brothers, we recognize His Presence in ourselves." - A Course in Miracles
"The concepts which now prove to be fundamental to our understanding of nature...seem to my mind to be structures of pure thought...the unvierse begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine." - Sir James Jeans
You have no evidence for that statement anymore than you can prove any deity actually exists.
Oh yes I do.
And as for proving God actually exists, God is a Spirit, and if your looking for physical evidence spirits aren't corporal entities. You have only the witness testimonies of those to whom the Spirit of God has been received and INSPIRES action in accordance with this Spirit which can be deduced by the Spirit's signature in past recorded religious experiences.
Slogan/motto:
"Love separates for the sake of union." - Rumi
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April 10th, 2012, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CabinetMaker
See is not believing, believing is seeing. You want to see before you will believe whereas God wants you to believe before you can see.
The world we see is interpreted through our own personal belief-system.
"The concepts which now prove to be fundamental to our understanding of nature...seem to my mind to be structures of pure thought...the unvierse begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine." - Sir James Jeans
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"One Day AT A Time" Taken from that Old Gospel Classic.
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April 10th, 2012, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by CabinetMaker
Rather, he has no evidence that you would accept as valid. The nature of faith is that we do not have the evidence that would prove the existence of God in a court of law. None the less, we experience God everyday so we know that He is real and that He is with us. We don't need the proof to believe.
See is not believing, believing is seeing. You want to see before you will believe whereas God wants you to believe before you can see.
Yes!
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen" (Hebrews 11:1).
I hope for a spiritual body and eternal life. I experience and feel God working in my life.
"God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person." Hebrews 1:1-3
"Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:
In whom we have redemption through his blood, [even] the forgiveness of sins:
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" Colossians 1:12-15
"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." 2 Corinthians 2:4
Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Image or Form. Not God himself, but reflection of.
Psalm 1[/color] and Job 28:28
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.
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