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why do antiCatholics get on these forums and blast Catholics...
and conveniently forget stories like St Thomas MOre... John Fisher... and etc... i could go on all day
The movie A Man For All Seasons was somewhat inaccurate here & there but for the most part is a good movie about St Thomas More... Still, one should read his books, not just go by the movie... He was a devout Christian who DIED for his faith in Christ... died for what he believed (knew). He died a Catholic... died because he would not agree that King H the VIII had the right to overrule the Church... he died at the hands of cruel, barbarous, lying corrupt NONCatholics who let the king run amok... But St Thomas stood against the king even when it meant death...
But you antiCahtolics...
no, you never seem to think about that... or even seem to KNOW about it a lot of the time...
Why do Catholics get on this forum and claim to be the only church?
My main problem with Catholicism is the doctrines that it teaches, not their spotted history because every church has a spotted past.
Likewise naming Catholics who have done good deeds does not change my opinion on the doctrines that are taught.
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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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April 23rd, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ezekel
You know what the Bible teaches the actual church in Acts did for heretics, they threw them out of the church.
You know what didn't happen in the NT church, anybody tortured, killed, imprisoned, or beaten because they disagreed with Peter or any of the other church leaders.
Now does the Inquisition mean that all those who are Roman Catholic are unsaved or that Catholicism is inherently wrong,? No it does not.
At the very least Catholics should acknowledge that the Church is not to encourage or endorse any act of violence against those who teach false doctrine or those who practice other religions.
all thorugh history people hav gotten the Church and its members confused w/ one another... happens ALL the time... a reflection on human nature.. (which is a beast...)
The Church has never cndoned slavery
murder
torture
and all the other things they have been accused of condoning/practicing.
that is not, of course, to say that no Catholics ever did those things... I am sure we all know Catholics who violate Church teaching... some even accept legalized child murder (abortion)..
people are always judging the Church by its members... That's rather understandable... but it is NOT good or logical to do so...
all Catholics have violated Church teaching at some point in his her life... or virtually all anyhow... But that does not mean the Church's teachings... are affected...
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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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April 23rd, 2012, 01:01 PM
all Catholics have violated Church teaching at some point in his her life... or virtually all anyhow... But that does not mean the Church's teachings... are affected...
you are probably the 100th person on the forums i have run into who claims there are so many doctrines you dont agree with that the RCC teaches
yet you mention not ONE
so i can't answer this...
The RCC is the Church Christ established and there is only ONE true Church
the others are Christian insofar as they teach true Christian beliefs... where they differ w/ the Original Church, they are, logically, wrong
Okay doctrinal problems I have with Catholicism.
Purgatory, the role of Confession, Apostolic succession, Mariology, Mortal sins, role of Church leadership, Sainthood and prayer to saints, praying for the dead, Sacrament and Baptism.
I could go on but that is more than enough to show why I disagree with Catholicism.
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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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April 26th, 2012, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ezekel
Okay doctrinal problems I have with Catholicism.
Purgatory, the role of Confession, Apostolic succession, Mariology, Mortal sins, role of Church leadership, Sainthood and prayer to saints, praying for the dead, Sacrament and Baptism.
I could go on but that is more than enough to show why I disagree with Catholicism.
Slogan/motto:
love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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April 27th, 2012, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Ezekel
Okay doctrinal problems I have with Catholicism.
Purgatory, the role of Confession, Apostolic succession, Mariology, Mortal sins, role of Church leadership, Sainthood and prayer to saints, praying for the dead, Sacrament and Baptism.
I could go on but that is more than enough to show why I disagree with Catholicism.
1st of all recal that the RCC was the only Christian Church in the world until 1520s when Luther was excommunicated as a heretic and now there are many such insitutions that claim to be Christian... and to some extent some of them are... but they are lacking in many things because they separated from the Original and one and only Church Christ established..
all these doctrines you list could easily be accepted - am i right? - if you only knew that the Roman CahtolicChurch is the one Christ established...
since you dont know that, apprtly
i will explain what i can
Purgatory... 2 Macc 12:44 (one of the bks removed from the Bible by Luther and co) mentions praying for the dead, that they be released from theirr sins
then there is 1 Cor 3:13- about the "fire" one has to go through b4 Heaven
Rev says No unclean thing will etner Heaven
St Mt 18:23 says that sinner will be handed over to the torturers (demons?) until the debt is paid... a debt that had already been wiped away by the loving "master" (God) in this parable of Christ's. In fact some say this psg is about HELL not Purgatory... I am not sure if the RCC has a definite position on which one it is... but UNTIL usually implies an end...
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For as much as it depends on you, live at peace with others.
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April 27th, 2012, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
1st of all recal that the RCC was the only Christian Church in the world until 1520s when Luther was excommunicated as a heretic and now there are many such insitutions that claim to be Christian... and to some extent some of them are... but they are lacking in many things because they separated from the Original and one and only Church Christ established..
all these doctrines you list could easily be accepted - am i right? - if you only knew that the Roman CahtolicChurch is the one Christ established...
since you dont know that, apprtly
i will explain what i can
Purgatory... 2 Macc 12:44 (one of the bks removed from the Bible by Luther and co) mentions praying for the dead, that they be released from theirr sins
then there is 1 Cor 3:13- about the "fire" one has to go through b4 Heaven
Rev says No unclean thing will etner Heaven
St Mt 18:23 says that sinner will be handed over to the torturers (demons?) until the debt is paid... a debt that had already been wiped away by the loving "master" (God) in this parable of Christ's. In fact some say this psg is about HELL not Purgatory... I am not sure if the RCC has a definite position on which one it is... but UNTIL usually implies an end...
i will leave it at that 4 now
There were the eastern orthodox and Coptic churches that existed before Rome.
When you study the mission journeys of the apostles.. no one went to Rome until Paul was imprisoned and taken there.
The ORIGINAL churches were in Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamon, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, Laodicea and Jerusalem.
Rome is only casually mentioned in scripture.
In fact, the Eastern Orthodox Churches have a much more logical claim to being the original churches than Rome does.
And then you have the great schism.. when Rome, being the head of the vast Roman Empire, tried to use its political might to bring all the eastern orthodox churches under the Roman Bishop (now known as the Pope) and they refused.. so the Eastern Ortthodox Churches were going to excommunicate the Roman Pope (but he died before they could do it) and the Roman Church excommunicated them.
The Eastern Orthodox Churches were in the majority.. the Roman church in the minority... I'm sorry, but the minority does not have the rights to what logically belongs to the majority.
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love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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April 27th, 2012, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HisServant
There were the eastern orthodox and Coptic churches that existed before Rome.
could u please get your history correct b4 you spout ofF? The Eastern and Coptic are still Catholic... geez... didn't i say this b4????
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The Eastern Orthodox Churches were in the majority.. the Roman church in the minority... I'm sorry, but the minority does not have the rights to what logically belongs to the majority.
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get your information from a true Catholic
there is a lot of lying in the world and the RCC seems to get the majority of it...
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