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Luke 9:23 Then He said to them all, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow Me."
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April 19th, 2012, 12:16 PM
"Christianity is reliant on the doctrine of the Trinity!"
How's that? I assume I don't need to capitalize it?
"If a sheerly linguistic version of the gospel could be concocted, it would merely so be no longer the gospel. In the Lutheran Reformation’s understanding, which we believe in this matter to be correct, the sacraments make the inalienable externality of the gospel message and therefore are necessary to the authenticity of that message." (Christian Dogmatics [1984], II:302-303 as cited in Pontifications)
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Gaudium de veritate (Latin, "Delight in the truth")
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April 19th, 2012, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by christnow
"Jesus by himself is 1 BEING, because Jesus by himself is 1 human BEING."
- Cpl Pyron from his youtube video
Jesus is also 1 Divine Being. Thus, Jesus has two Natures (Divine and human) in one Person.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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April 19th, 2012, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by christnow
"Jesus by himself is 1 BEING, because Jesus by himself is 1 human BEING."
- Cpl Pyron from his youtube video
The bible wasn't written in English, genius.
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
"Jesus by himself is 1 BEING, because Jesus by himself is 1 human BEING."
- Cpl Pyron from his youtube video
Well isnt this novel?
Not sure that this 'sentence' ends the Trinity...but it is a proposal among others concerning the nature of Jesus in relation to 'God' which has been a matter of debate for many centuries in Christendom. Curiously, one can choose any number of views concerning Jesus humanity and/or divinity, however you slice or dice it, - its all in the 'synthesis' or 'assumption' peculiar to your own theological perspective.
God's Essential Oneness or Unity is fundamental, as the absolute, universal and ultimate reality. This Essence is Singular in Identity or substance but can take on many forms or personality-expressions.
Since 'God' is INFINITE, there really is no final 'sentence' so to speak
I suppose thats why it took centuries of debate and speculation which formulated the various creeds and dogmas about such, differences of opinion which still exist today.
There are variations of perspective spanning from pure Unit-Arian to more liberal trinitarian views, besides that which the RCC and other orthodox branches decided(or voted) on as 'official', so there's more 'wiggle room' than one supposes. God is Infinite Spirit.
Also to assume that one 'comprehends' totally and perfectly the Blessed Trinity...is contrary to the accepted assumption of the divine Mystery being beyond human comprehension, so even here we're dealing with a 'relative' concept of Deity.
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How forcible are right words! but what doth your arguing reprove? (Job 6:25 KJV )
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April 19th, 2012, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by christnow
"Jesus by himself is 1 BEING, because Jesus by himself is 1 human BEING."
- Cpl Pyron from his youtube video
Well I guess that depends on how you mean that, if you mean He was solely human just like you and I understand and live the term then someone should have obviously locked up this Jesus guy in the looney bin because no human like you and I could ever get away with saying John 5:26 KJV and John 10:17-18 KJV .
So either you're like Jefferson and throw out all that mythic Resurrection nonsense in which case yes you can throw out any explanation that requires Christ to be God or you have to explain how a mere human can say He will take up His life again after laying it down and actually prove that He's not crazy by doing it.
April 19th, 2012, 12:55 PM
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April 19th, 2012, 01:37 PM
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