[Untellectual]

Christians like myself have made excuses for their sin. Is it possible to be a Christian and sin? And yet to say yes is to say yes to sin. Unless to say no is to say Christ's death is not for the sin even that we have committed since being born again from above, born of God by the Holy Spirit of God.

Therefore there is the existence of sin as an ever present reality in the world, and maybe it has had its affect in our lives as well.

But we are to live differently. A peculiar people. A people for God's own possession!

Not to do evil, but to do good. And that God would be glorified. For salvation has been bought, and there is forgiveness of sins.

[Untellectual]

The question is if it is true that Christians do not sin.

If we see someone who is a Christian and they sin, either that person is not really a Christian or Christians do sin.

[Untellectual]

Galatians 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, [is] therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.

[lifeisgood]

The fact that you are struggling with the problem of sinning means that you are a Christian, because one that is not a Christian does not care if they sin or not.

Yes, a Christian does sin, otherwise 1 John 1:9 would be irrelevant, because 1 John is written to believers (1 Jn. 3).

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin (refers to “the sin nature”), we deceive ourselves (refers to self-deception), and the Truth is not in us. (This does not refer to all Truth as it regards Believers, but rather that the Truth of the indwelling sinful nature is not in us.)

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins (pertains to acts of sin, whatever they might be; the sinner is to believe [Jn. 3:16]; the Saint is to confess), He (the Lord) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins (God will always be true to His Own Nature and Promises, keeping Faith with Himself and with man), and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (“All,” not some. All sin was remitted, paid for, and put away on the basis of the satisfaction offered for the demands of God’s Holy Law, which sinners broke, when the Lord Jesus died on the Cross.)

1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned (here, John is denouncing the claims of sinless perfection; he is going back to Verse 8, speaking of Christians who claimed they had no sin nature), we make Him a liar (the person who makes such a claim makes God a liar, because the Word says the opposite), and His Word is not in us. (If we properly know the Word, we will properly know that perfection is not in us at present, and will not be until the Trump sounds.)


Swaggart, J. (2005). The Expositor's Study Bible (2168). Baton Rouge, LA: World Evangelism Press.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by lifeisgood

The fact that you are struggling with the problem of sinning means that you are a Christian, because one that is not a Christian does not care if they sin or not.

Yes, a Christian does sin, otherwise 1 John 1:9 would be irrelevant, because 1 John is written to believers (1 Jn. 3).

1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin (refers to “the sin nature”), we deceive ourselves (refers to self-deception), and the Truth is not in us. (This does not refer to all Truth as it regards Believers, but rather that the Truth of the indwelling sinful nature is not in us.)

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins (pertains to acts of sin, whatever they might be; the sinner is to believe [Jn. 3:16]; the Saint is to confess), He (the Lord) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins (God will always be true to His Own Nature and Promises, keeping Faith with Himself and with man), and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (“All,” not some. All sin was remitted, paid for, and put away on the basis of the satisfaction offered for the demands of God’s Holy Law, which sinners broke, when the Lord Jesus died on the Cross.)

1 John 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned (here, John is denouncing the claims of sinless perfection; he is going back to Verse 8, speaking of Christians who claimed they had no sin nature), we make Him a liar (the person who makes such a claim makes God a liar, because the Word says the opposite), and His Word is not in us. (If we properly know the Word, we will properly know that perfection is not in us at present, and will not be until the Trump sounds.)


Swaggart, J. (2005). The Expositor's Study Bible (2168). Baton Rouge, LA: World Evangelism Press.

You would disagree with the one who would proclaim that 1 John 1:9 is written for unbelievers.

[sky.]

1 Corinthians 11:31-32

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by sky.

1 Corinthians 11:31-32

31 For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. 32 But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

Yes.

Romans 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

This first or after.

[sky.]

1 Corinthians 11:31-32

First we should meditate on the Scriptures Psalm 119:11

This is preventative and the intercessory work of the Messiah.

John 17:15

Romans 8:34

Hebrews 7:25

[Untellectual]

John 12:44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.

John 12:45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.

John 12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

John 5:25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

John 5:27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

John 5:28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

[Untellectual]

Hebrews 12:11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

[sky.]

Originally Posted by Untellectual

Yes.

Romans 8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

This first or after.

1 Corinthians 11:31-32

That verse is an applied remedy after sinning also they speak of a timetable of sorts for confession of sins.

1 John 1:99 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Ephesians 4:26
26 “Be angry, and do not sin”: do not let the sun go down on your wrath,

1 Corinthians 11:27-32
27 Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. 28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup.

[Untellectual]

27-28 Perhaps said and coupled with

Matthew 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

Hopefully correctly rather than otherwise. Conviction comes. Right interpretation is needed.

[sky.]

The first remedy for personal sin is receiving Salvation
The second remedy is justification (declared righteous) through Salvation.

Romans 5:12-21 states the remedy for imputed sin.

[sky.]

But we should fight against sin after we are saved. We should say no.

[Untellectual]

Originally Posted by sky.

The first remedy for personal sin is receiving Salvation
The second remedy is justification (declared righteous) through Salvation.

Romans 5:12-21 states the remedy for imputed sin.

So not that sin can be imputed to a goat, but that it can be imputed to us (different usage of the word I believe). How? We hear the law... we know we are sinners. There is a judgment that stands against us. Is it that it is a part of us?

And yet we can be justified (declared righteous, I believe).

Our sins not being any longer to our account. Forgiven and by God's justice made free. Free from sin and the punishment of sin.

We should define justification, if it can be defined.

There are scriptures that can be read. To be careful of doctrines that have been said. And to stand with the truth... but not for the sake of condemning others.