[Totton Linnet]

Matt:ch.1.v22

All this took place to fulfil what the Lord had spoken by the prophet "behold a virgin shall concieve and bear a son and His name shall be called Immanual [which means God with us]

Oh my friends don't put God upon a throne in heaven in unapproachable light....it is true and we worship Him but if it is so He has raised us together with Him in heavenly places. This is the truth now at this present time.

Don't keep distance between yourself and God. There is not a single depth of human experience that God has not "been there, done that." This is the glory of the true church's doctrine. No religion teaches it, not even "christian" religions understand it.

God not only dwells with us, He dwells IN US.

This is truth that will produce in you perfect peace, overflowing joy, a heart of thanksgiving and a mouth full of praise.

All other christrian religion teaches that [or implies] that Jesus came to teach us and to be our example in being like God, that is as far from the truth as the east is from the west...that is onerous, hard, burdensome discipleship, it is a yoke the devil loves to put upon believer's neck.

Christ came to impart to us by a rebirth His own divine life and nature....the more we discover ourselves in Him, the more we understand it, the better we know it, the more we will grow into the person God always intended for us to be.

[Lazy afternoon]

Are you the same Totton of the Koinonia thread where you are calling those who believe Jesus is the Christ, to be slitherers ?

1Jn 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1Jn 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

LA

[Viv W]

Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon

Are you the same Totton of the Koinonia thread where you are calling those who believe Jesus is the Christ, to be slitherers ?

1Jn 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1Jn 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

LA

Thanks LA.


Let’s rise up in our thinking, knowing that God’s thoughts toward us are ones of mercy, peace and a desire to see His people prospering.

GOD bless.

[Totton Linnet]

Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon

Are you the same Totton of the Koinonia thread where you are calling those who believe Jesus is the Christ, to be slitherers ?

1Jn 5:1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1Jn 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.
1Jn 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

LA

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You are bereft of the Holy Ghost so you do not understand the scriptures...as is apparant to all

Jesus was much more plain in His language, do you think if you and the rest of your crowd were my brothers and sisters I wouldn't know? you are a nest of vipers.

[Lazy afternoon]

Totton,

Mixture of many things are an abomination to God.

The RCC doctrines mix the things of the Spirit with the flesh like the Pharisees did.

Read Mat.ch 23 for where your character is going.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv W
John dedicates his entire gospel to the singular purpose of reestablishing Jesus’ true identity.
Note carefully John’s specific purpose statement: "But these things have been written that you may believe that Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in his name" (John 20:31).
Here is the revealing of the mystery of godliness known equally to Peter: "Who do you say that I am?" "You are the Messiah, the Son of the Living God" (Matt. 16:16). Jesus congratulated Peter for his discerning insight, revealed by "my Father who is in heaven." No mention was made of a preexistent eternal Son in Peter’s answer. The Christology of the giants of original Christianity insists on belief that Jesus was the Christ and Son of God. And to be "Son of God" in the Bible is a claim not to be God, but God’s special agent and commissioner.

It is worth reflecting seriously on the fact that God, being immortal, cannot die. Nor indeed can an immortal angel. There is only one category in which the Messiah can be placed: that of mortal, human being.
After all there is "one God, the Father" (I Cor. 8:6) and one (human) Lord Messiah, the adoni of Psalm 110:1 and the unique, sinless man, mediator between ourselves and the One God (I Tim 2:5).

In the words of Jesus the words and wisdom of the One God are revealed.

In Jesus we hear God’s final word to the dying world (Heb. 1:1-2).


Acts 3:19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26

Who is the Servant, the Chosen one?

Warm Christian love.

*Relpy by Totton--

Every time I read your "warm christian love" it nauseates me, do you think I would not know warm christian love if it were there? it is a wolf in sheep's clothing that ye are. All your posts are just as hateful against the true church as jerzy's or Meshak.

Because you war against the Holy Spirit He does not teach you, even abc truths concerning the nature of sonship and fatherhood...you do not have that revelation that Peter had or you would understand that his confession of Christ's Sonship was to confess Christ's deity.

It is hardly a small nuance is it, a little oversight on your part, it is the difference between you being a child of God or not. This is YOUR crowd

"This is why the Jews sought all the more to kill Him because He not only broke the sabbath but also called God His Father, making Himself equal with God."

The hate you have for the true church is of the exact like nature, which is why when I showed you how that God charges you with being liars and murderers you were not able to answer.

"The Father judges no man but has given all judgement to the Son that all men may honour the Son even as they honour the Father.
He who does not honour the Son does not honour the the Father who sent Him."

Your claim to worship the Most high God then is yet another lie.

LA

[Totton Linnet]

They hated Christ because He made Himself equal with God. You hate the His church for the same reason.
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If you continue to hijack this thread I shall consider "Be like God" fair game, I have always politely left it alone.

[Viv W]

Originally Posted by Totton Linnet

They hated Christ because He made Himself equal with God. You hate the His church for the same reason.
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If you continue to hijack this thread I shall consider "Be like God" fair game, I have always politely left it alone.

Hi Tots,
It is written:
Gal 5:25 We get our new life from the Spirit, so we should follow the Spirit.
Gal 5:26 We must not feel proud and boast about ourselves. We must not cause trouble for each other or be jealous of each other.

I’m not hijacking this thread, as you did not mention that I’m not allowed to post here.
But if it is your wish, then I will honour it – no bad feelings.

In future please mention if I’m not allowed to post in your threads.

LOVE always brings Revelation, allowing you to see things and people in GOD's light.

I love you with the love of Christ Jesus.

VivW

God knows that I am not lying. HE is the God and Father of the Lord Jesus, and HE is to be praised forever.

[Lazy afternoon]

Originally Posted by Totton Linnet

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You are bereft of the Holy Ghost so you do not understand the scriptures...as is apparant to all

Jesus was much more plain in His language, do you think if you and the rest of your crowd were my brothers and sisters I wouldn't know? you are a nest of vipers.

I love both Jesus Christ and his Church.

Read the OT and you will find that the church of the time forsook God, and became hateful of the prophets which is a type of what you are doing .

There is no difference between how you speak to us and how they spoke to the prophets in order to try and protect their fallen nation fron the judgment of God which you are also doing.

Read Rev.ch 17 and Rev.ch 8 and 9 to see that the fallen church which doctrines you believe in, is judged as the whore she is.

LA

[Totton Linnet]

Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon

I love both Jesus Christ and his Church.

Read the OT and you will find that the church of the time forsook God, and became hateful of the prophets which is a type of what you are doing .

There is no difference between how you speak to us and how they spoke to the prophets in order to try and protect their fallen nation fron the judgment of God which you are also doing.

Read Rev.ch 17 and Rev.ch 8 and 9 to see that the fallen church which doctrines you believe in, is judged as the whore she is.

LA

We do not go by prophets today, are you a prophet? we go by the word of God not spoken by the prophet but written down. If a prophet comes and speaks not according to the written word he is false prophet.

When have I ever shared with you or with anybody which denomination I serve? how then did you know which church I belong to? .... I will tell you how you knew, because there is only one church.

You admit then that there is only one church.

Now quite plainly speaking the way you do shows that you have not the foggiest idea what true salvation is or you would not lump everyone together in the same bag. Did God not make distinctions between those who were faithful and those who were false? how? they were distinguished by there fidelity in infidelity to God's word.

The church in all her denominations is made up simply of people who have fled to the Lord for refuge....I am such, salvation is a personal matter between the individual soul and God.

Personally we come to Christ, individually we come. I was saved in my own home. You do not know anything about it or you would not speak of the church as you do.
Everyone who reads your posts can see that you do not understand the scriptures, all the while you war against the Holy Spirit who is the Author of it you will continue to walk in this bitterness of yours.

[Totton Linnet]

Originally Posted by Lazy afternoon

I love both Jesus Christ and his Church.

Read the OT and you will find that the church of the time forsook God, and became hateful of the prophets which is a type of what you are doing .

There is no difference between how you speak to us and how they spoke to the prophets in order to try and protect their fallen nation fron the judgment of God which you are also doing.

Read Rev.ch 17 and Rev.ch 8 and 9 to see that the fallen church which doctrines you believe in, is judged as the whore she is.

LA

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Those who pursued Christ to vex and persecute Him claimed to love God, and Moses and the Prophets. It was Christ who Moses and the prophets spoke of that they hated.

Yes when Isaiah cried "Look unto Me ye ends of the earth and be ye saved." That was Christ speaking through Isaiah

"I am God your Saviour there is no other God beside Me" that was Christ speaking through the prophet.

As you say they hated the prophets and so it was no wonder that they hated Christ who is the sum total of prophecy when He appeared among them.

So do you....as long as He is only a man you will accept Him but let Him make Himself equal with God and you will take up stones to stone Him with.

[Colossians]

He has raised us together with Him in heavenly places. This is the truth now at this present time.
This is simply cleche.

For in the next breath you tell us that we'll be living on earth in the next life. There is no point being seated in heavenly places now, if we are going to have to exit heaven and come back to earth.

So like most in the church, you say things without thinking them through. The believer is indeed seated in heaven right now: it is part and parcel of the non-dimensional, non-corporeal realm that our spirit actually belongs to, that that same spirit can be with Christ in heaven right now.

For heaven is not a place, but Christ Himself. And right now you think it has streets of gold and people running around in white robes.

[andyc]

Originally Posted by Totton Linnet

They hated Christ because He made Himself equal with God. You hate the His church for the same reason.
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If you continue to hijack this thread I shall consider "Be like God" fair game, I have always politely left it alone.

They don't have ears to hear.

[andyc]

Originally Posted by Colossians

He has raised us together with Him in heavenly places. This is the truth now at this present time.
This is simply cleche.

For in the next breath you tell us that we'll be living on earth in the next life. There is no point being seated in heavenly places now, if we are going to have to exit heaven and come back to earth.

So like most in the church, you say things without thinking them through. The believer is indeed seated in heaven right now: it is part and parcel of the non-dimensional, non-corporeal realm that our spirit actually belongs to, that that same spirit can be with Christ in heaven right now.

For heaven is not a place, but Christ Himself. And right now you think it has streets of gold and people running around in white robes.

This is a valid point but its getting away from the intent of the OP.

[Totton Linnet]

Originally Posted by Colossians

He has raised us together with Him in heavenly places. This is the truth now at this present time.
This is simply cleche.

For in the next breath you tell us that we'll be living on earth in the next life. There is no point being seated in heavenly places now, if we are going to have to exit heaven and come back to earth.

So like most in the church, you say things without thinking them through. The believer is indeed seated in heaven right now: it is part and parcel of the non-dimensional, non-corporeal realm that our spirit actually belongs to, that that same spirit can be with Christ in heaven right now.

For heaven is not a place, but Christ Himself. And right now you think it has streets of gold and people running around in white robes.

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Like a great many people you assume you know what I believe without actually reading what I do believe, I think you read the first line of a post and leap and bound straight away to a conclusion.

Although I DO believe in the millenial reign and that it will be a dispensation of the gospel in triumph fully revealed on earth, whereas now it is in a mystery, OUR part, the church and the body of Christ is not to inherit the earthly reign but the spiritual or heavenly reign. The Jews will inherit what God has always promised them, worldwide rule in righteousness, peace and prosperity.

IF we expect that God will keep His promise to us, and He will, then we must expect that He will keep His promise to the Jews, and He will.

Our part in this dispensation [which I think is little understood] is warfare in the heavenly places, winning [what admittedly has been won at Calvary] thrones and principalties and dominations, clearing the heavenlies of it's wicked rulers. For although the battle has been fought and won at the cross WE have to take the victory from them.

The devil is hanging on where he has no right to, Adam allowed him the right to usurps those powers and dominations in the heavenly places but Jesus has defeated Him and is ready to cast him out.

How?

Through prayer and through preaching the gospel.

Nations [like India and the Sudan] could be won for the Lord if Christians would only wake up to their position with Christ in the heavenly place "far above all powers and rule, thrones and dominations."