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abortion a single issue????!!! -
May 2nd, 2012, 10:38 AM
its not a matter of a mere "single issue"
LIFE is THE issue of all time
with abortion ALL a person's rights are taken away from him/her in ONE act of mutilation/murder
key word: murder
even if a woman is raped and gets pregantn (extremely rare because the trauma/ stress usually is not conducive to impregnation...)
the child is still innocent and the woman is NOT forced to raise the child... many people want to adopt and there are NO babies to adopt anymore... But even if that were not the case... its still MURDER to destroy innocent human life for ANY reason
Care to explain exactly how (say) a zygote is actually a "child" having no nervous system or even specifically human features and is not simply your theistic assumptions, belief and dogma such as a supposed soul perhaps?
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May 2nd, 2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TruthSetsFree
its not a matter of a mere "single issue"
LIFE is THE issue of all time
with abortion ALL a person's rights are taken away from him/her in ONE act of mutilation/murder
key word: murder
even if a woman is raped and gets pregantn (extremely rare because the trauma/ stress usually is not conducive to impregnation...)
the child is still innocent and the woman is NOT forced to raise the child... many people want to adopt and there are NO babies to adopt anymore... But even if that were not the case... its still MURDER to destroy innocent human life for ANY reason
uh... so called reason..
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Originally Posted by This Charming Manc
maybe the only post you have ever made I would consider sane.
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May 2nd, 2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by alwight
@OP "abortion a single issue????!!!"
Care to explain exactly how (say) a zygote is actually a "child" having no nervous system or even specifically human features and is not simply your theistic assumptions, belief and dogma such as a supposed soul perhaps?
science3 has proven that life begisn at the beginning .. .conception
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May 2nd, 2012, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Eeset
So it is gravely sinful for a fetus to kill its mother?
*It's* ... you mean his OR her mother ...
An unborn baby could never KNOWINGLY/INTENTIONALLY kill their mother. The religious concept/transgression known as "sin" indicates a motivation or willfulness of a specific act being committed.
OTOH, when women abort (including those who encourage them to abort and participate in the abortion), they ARE intentionally killing their unborn baby.
An unborn baby could never KNOWINGLY/INTENTIONALLY kill their mother. The religious concept/transgression known as "sin" indicates a motivation or willfulness of a specific act being committed.
OTOH, when women abort (including those who encourage them to abort and participate in the abortion), they ARE intentionally killing their unborn baby.
I was not trying to deprecate the fetus by using the gender neutral form of reference.
I am opposed to abortion. I am, however, also opposed to making it illegal.
But you make an interesting point. All life seems to have from conception a strong will to live. It is that self preservation force that we see in all plants and animals. Therefore I can reasonably take issue with your statement. You say an unborn baby could never intentionally kill its (pardon me, his or her) mother. I think you are wrong.
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May 2nd, 2012, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Eeset
You say an unborn baby could never intentionally kill its (pardon me, his or her) mother. I think you are wrong.
How can an unborn baby intentionally kill his or her mother? Please expand on this....
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
How can an unborn baby intentionally kill his or her mother? Please expand on this....
Didn't you understand what I said about self preservation? It is one of the strongest built in attributes of all plants and animals. You are thinking of intentional being an intellectual attribute. Have you never read Paul where he discusses how he is sinful by nature and although he wills to not sin he is incapable of not sinning? Same principle. That unborn baby is growing and striving to live without any regard for the mother. If you think it has no will or self identity then you are regarding it not as a person but a growth.
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