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if u do not repent of mortal sin, are you lost forever? - May 2nd, 2012, 12:54 PM

yes and no

the Church (RCC) has never taught that any given person, even Hitler, is in Hell (although in exorcisms some have heard the voice of Hitler coming from the possesed... but i digress...)

if a person dies unrepentent of a mortal sin

he will end up in Hell... but there is a time b4 final judgment

but after phsycial death

and in that time... well, i would think there would be time to repent...

that doesn't mean he will avoid Purgatoyr... but he will eventually be saved



   
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May 2nd, 2012, 12:58 PM

How are you defining repent?



   
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May 2nd, 2012, 01:00 PM

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How are you defining repent?
if you love God you will want to repent.. .it will come naturally to you... every time u fall

but if you dont love God.. well, then repentance becomes... problematic

but even those who dont know God

know when they have crossed a line morally

they are disingenous or outright lying when thye say otherwise..

everyone knows right from wrong... dont have 2b raised Christian to know... a lot of what is right and wrong...

anyway, i am out of time for today



   
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May 2nd, 2012, 02:32 PM

What is this mortal sin you guys jabber about? And Hitler and the RCC were a diabolical union. Such a moral organisation, trying to benefit from Hitler's schemes.



   
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May 2nd, 2012, 02:36 PM

The concept of a mortal sin was dreamed up one day by a bunch of bishops and presented to the Pope as a great idea for fund raising.



   
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May 2nd, 2012, 02:49 PM

are you trying to scare us?





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How are you defining repent?
don't you have a dictionary?





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The concept of a mortal sin was dreamed up one day by a bunch of bishops and presented to the Pope as a great idea for fund raising.
Documentation, please.



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Documentation, please.



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Do you really want to go down that route?.. penance, selling of indulgences and all that steamy history?

Just look at the Vatican and all the treasures it has... while Jesus had no place to lay his head and had to be buried in a borrowed tomb.



   
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May 2nd, 2012, 03:05 PM

Our Lady of Fatima told us that souls fall into Hell like snowflakes in a snowstorm. I cannot urge this enough: Pray the Chaplet of the Divine Mercy and the Most Holy Rosary every day. And when you pray the rosary, be sure, with the greatest devotion, to pray the Fatima prayer: "Oh, my Jesus, forgive us our sins. Save us from the fires of Hell. Lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy."





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Our Lady of Fatima told us that souls fall into Hell like snowflakes in a snowstorm.
how do you know that?





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May 2nd, 2012, 03:08 PM

Re 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne,

even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Re 21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things;
and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.





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how do you know that?
"Even in 1917, the children were given a vision of Hell and souls were falling into Hell like snowflakes fall in a snowstorm."

That's the reason Our Blessed Mother told us to add the Fatima prayer at the end of each decade of the rosary.

Because Hell is real. Real people are going there. It's a real danger that threatens every one of us. And it's only through the great mercy and grace of God that any one of us will avoid it. That's why we have to pray especially hard.

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Consider the following pertinent information from authoritative Catholic sources:


CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH:

1855 Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God's law; it turns man away from God, who is his ultimate end and his beatitude, by preferring an inferior good to him...

1856 Mortal sin, by attacking the vital principle within us---that is, charity---necessitates a new initiative of God's mercy and a conversion of heart which is normally accomplished within the setting of the sacrament of reconciliation [penance, confession]...

1861 Mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God's forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ's kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back. However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offense, we must entrust judgment of persons to the justice and mercy of God.

Mortal Sin: a grave infraction of the law of God that destroys the divine life in the soul of the sinner (sanctifying grace), constituting a turning away from God.*


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*Glossary of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, p. 889.





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Our Lady of Fatima told us that souls fall into Hell like snowflakes in a snowstorm. I cannot urge this enough: Pray the Chaplet of the Divine Mercy and the Most Holy Rosary every day. And when you pray the rosary, be sure, with the greatest devotion, pray the Fatima prayer: "Oh, my Jesus, forgive us our sins. Save us from the fires of Hell. Lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy."
Jesus taught us how to pray. I think we should heed his teachings.

God is a jealous god and does not suffer us praying to anyone but him. Even Jesus does not wish to be prayed to... only his Father is worthy of our prayers.


It is Satan, who wished to be adored and worshiped by all others that incurred the wrath of God and was cast from heaven. It's a lesson you should learn.



   
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