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Never be haughty to the humble; never be humble to the haughty.
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May 9th, 2012, 03:59 PM
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Politically speaking, this was a brave move. The gay and gay-friendly community wasn't very likely to vote republican anyway, and this may alienate some undecided, conservative leaning voters.
So kudos to both his political bravery and on making the right move morally.
As you say, the people who oppose gay marriage are much less likely to vote for him. And so he's risking little by doing this, and if he can bait the republicans to attack him for it, he can drive a wedge between the right and independents.
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In a world with so many ready to hear, why waste words on the willfully deaf?
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May 9th, 2012, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rexlunae
How do you figure? Gay marriage is currently supported by a very thin majority, such that the 50% potentially lies within the margin of error. Most of the people who support gay marriage were probably going to vote for him anyway, so the middle ground that he has to fight with Romney for is likely tilted against his new position.
It's entirely possible that, come November, this will be seen as what cost him the election. Especially if African-American turnout falls off from what it was in 2008.
"When the lights go out all over the world, when history seems headed only into a dead end and total disaster, God brings forth light. He changes the direction of history and regenerates men and redirects events and institutions to fulfill His purposes."
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In a world with so many ready to hear, why waste words on the willfully deaf?
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May 9th, 2012, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
As you say, the people who oppose gay marriage are much less likely to vote for him.
That's actually not true. Demographically speaking, the strongest opponents of same-sex marriage are African-Americans, especially African-American males.
"When the lights go out all over the world, when history seems headed only into a dead end and total disaster, God brings forth light. He changes the direction of history and regenerates men and redirects events and institutions to fulfill His purposes."
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
I should stay of this because I don't do politics very well, but I'm going to step out side of
The Box
for a moment...
Spoiler
Sobamanites
That's all
.....O LORD my God, in You I put my trust. Psalm 7:1
.....To You, O LORD, I lift up my soul. Psalm 25:1
Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around. ~ Leo Buscaglia
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It's only the fairy tales they believe.
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May 9th, 2012, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Jack
According to polling there is a 3:2 margin in favour of gay marriage among independents.
That's kinda surprising. Good (well, at least from my perspective), but surprising.
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Originally Posted by Mr Jack
There was also a growing voice among the gay community that viewed Obama as using them for votes;
True enough, and even pretty reasonable from a certain perspective. That said, he's been one of the most tolerant presidents we've ever had.
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Originally Posted by Mr Jack
this will push their views back in his favour. It could potentially also make gay marriage more of a campaign issue, driving moderate support away from Romney if he comes out strongly against gay issues.
That depends. What does it look like for Romney to come out strongly on an issue? There's a chance he'd go along with gay marriage if it is important enough to independents. And that would certainly be a first.
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Originally Posted by Mr Jack
The long term trend is towards supporting gay issues, Obama has put himself on the upwards side of that trend.
Finally.
Eternal life is an easy promise to make and a hard one to fulfill.
[Obama declares support for gay marriage by Rick Klein ABC] "President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president.
In an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts, the president described his thought process as an “evolution” that led him to this place, based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters..." Full text: Obama declares support for gay marriage
Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).
He's just lost like the rest of the lost, no difference!!
Paul -- 050912
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
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"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning
[Obama declares support for gay marriage by Rick Klein ABC] "President Obama today announced that he now supports same-sex marriage, reversing his longstanding opposition amid growing pressure from the Democratic base and even his own vice president.
In an interview with ABC News’ Robin Roberts, the president described his thought process as an “evolution” that led him to this place, based on conversations with his own staff members, openly gay and lesbian service members, and conversations with his wife and own daughters..." Full text: Obama declares support for gay marriage
Homosexuality is: forbidden (Lev. 18:22), considered an abomination (1 Kin. 14:24), punishment for (Lev. 20:13), unclean (Rom. 1:24, 26, 27).
As I'd shown in my "Videos: Attacked by [Homosexual] Tolerance" thread, B. Hussein Obama has some real intellectual Hollyweird heavyweights backing his stance on allowing sodomites to redefine something that has been the foundation of western civilization for 2,000 years:
"Air Force One will feel a tailwind as it heads from Seattle to Southern California on Thursday, as show biz celebrities heaped praise on President Obama for declaring that he supports the right of same-sex couples to marry.
Obama is headed for a $40,000-a-person fundraiser at the home of Oscar-winning actor George Clooney.
The entertainment industry has helped change attitudes in America with depiction of gay and lesbian characters in TV sitcoms and movies. Here is a sampling of celebrity tweets on Obama’s marriage announcement.
–Alec Baldwin: “Obama gets it right on gay marriage. Bravo.
–Kathy Griffin: “POTUS & VPOTUS: turns out gays and lesbians should have SAME rights as rest of the country. Shouldn’t be “3/5ths” citizens.”
–Alicia Keys: “It’s about time.”
–Ricki Lake: “Love is love. Thank you, Mr. President Barack Obama.”
–Kim Kardashian: “Thank You, President Obama: No more living in the past.”
–Russell Simons: “Thank you Mr. President for your support of gay marriage.”
–Tyra Banks: Barack Obama — way 2 stand up 4 love for all.”
–Ellen DeGeneres: “Thank you President Obama for your beautiful & brave words. I’m overwhelmed.”
–Jesse Tyler Ferguson: “With Michelle Obama and JustinMiketa permission I would like to marry President Obama right now.”
Slogan/motto:
"A day is as a thousand years" is about perspective. Two hours on the highway, to a five year old, seems like an eternity! To a 50 year old trucker, it's just the start of a good morning