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May 13th, 2012, 09:17 PM
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You probably do not know that some of Solomon's wives were the daughters of his concubines and some of his concubines were the daughters of his wives. He was ruler and king. If it existed he owned it and made the rules.
Concubines were not legal wives, and their offspring were not considered legally legitimate in the eyes (and covenant promises) of God.

None of Solomon's sexual excesses are biblical guidelines for Christian morality, marriages, familes, etc.

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May 13th, 2012, 09:18 PM
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I would like to propose we outlaw divorce except when a woman who is married has been caught by at least two witnesses having sex with someone she is not married to. And I propose we allow marriages between any 2 or more consenting adults regardless of sex.

This, of course would be a return to the standards of the Old Testament but why not. It seems to have worked for many centuries so why wouldn't it work now?
Well, OIC has already addressed some of the more obvious flaws here and frankly your proposition is ludicrous. What if a man is caught cheating on his wife? Does the wife not have the right to divorce? What if a spouse is being abused? Do they have to remain in such a 'union'?

It's all well and good for you to be happy with what your father may decide for you (presuming you're not playing devils advocate here) but it certainly wouldn't be for many many other women. Compatibility doesn't come about through 'arranged' weddings and this whole thing is about as draconian as it gets if it's not 'tongue in cheek'....





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Some people just haven't a clue about ancient times. David....the lineage of David was that of Jesus which runs through Solomon.
   
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Some people just haven't a clue about ancient times. David....the lineage of David was that of Jesus which runs through Solomon.
And Rehoboam, the legitimate son of Solomon, is in the lineage of Christ, as opposed to all the other offspring Solomon produced; legitimately and illegitimately.

So your point is? . . .




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May 13th, 2012, 09:47 PM
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And Rehoboam, the legitimate son of Solomon, is in the lineage of Christ, as opposed to all the other offspring Solomon produced; legitimately and illegitimately.

So your point is? . . .
Nang you and I will never understand anything the same way. You know that and so do I. Get over it.
   
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May 13th, 2012, 09:56 PM
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Nang you and I will never understand anything the same way. You know that and so do I. Get over it.
That is because you hold to mystical/ungodly beliefs that work in opposition to the pure truths of God's Holy Scriptures.

I do not need to "get over" our differences, but I do not intend to let your unbiblical views go unchallenged, either.

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Well, OIC has already addressed some of the more obvious flaws here and frankly your proposition is ludicrous. What if a man is caught cheating on his wife? Does the wife not have the right to divorce? What if a spouse is being abused? Do they have to remain in such a 'union'?

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Eeset, any comment?




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I do not need to "get over" our differences, but I do not intend to let your views go unchallenged, either.

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May 13th, 2012, 10:11 PM
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Sure AB. I always have comments. Some people believe in Biblical concepts and others reject them. Would you deny that women are property in ancient times? Please cite the references that support that position.
   
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Sure AB. I always have comments. Some people believe in Biblical concepts and others reject them. Would you deny that women are property in ancient times? Please cite the references that support that position.
It's only been up until relatively 'recent' times where women weren't treat as equals, so whats your point?

Would you now care to address how it's at all fair or appropriate for divorce to occur if it's only the woman caught in adultery? Spousal abuse etc?




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May 14th, 2012, 01:09 AM
why not let them get a divorce?
if
there are no children involved




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I would like to propose we outlaw divorce except when a woman who is married has been caught by at least two witnesses having sex with someone she is not married to. And I propose we allow marriages between any 2 or more consenting adults regardless of sex.

This, of course would be a return to the standards of the Old Testament but why not. It seems to have worked for many centuries so why wouldn't it work now?
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Why not return to the era of property rights where women belong to their fathers and are contracted out? I really would not have objected if my father had given me to a man as long as the social contract provided that there would be no divorce unless I committed adultery and it also provided that he head to provide for me and the children.
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Well, OIC has already addressed some of the more obvious flaws here and frankly your proposition is ludicrous. What if a man is caught cheating on his wife? Does the wife not have the right to divorce? What if a spouse is being abused? Do they have to remain in such a 'union'?

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Why? Do you like divorce? Is divorce socially constructive?
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