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Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 04:42 PM

Many people believe the Sabbath commandment to be not moral, but ceremonial.

Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Letsargue

Yes, that's what I said. There are only two houses; the Light House, and the dark house (?).

Paul -- 051912

There isn't a Bible verse about this unless you supply it.

Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DansingWall

Galatians 5:1 (KJV) Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Just read verse 2, youll find the yoke

GALATIANS 5 [1] Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and BE NOT ENTANGLED AGAIN WITH THE YOKE OF BONDAGE. [2] Behold, I Paul say unto you, that IF YE BE CIRCUMCISED, CHRIST SHALL PROFIT YOU NOTHING.

The book of Galatians is a book containing 6 very short chapters. In these 6 chapters circumcision is mentioned 16 times. The commandments are not mentioned at all. Not once. Yet, those people that wish to do away with GODS commandments use scriptures from Galatians to try and do so.

Paul said that God's commandments are what matters, not if you make yourself a Jew through circumcision or not.

Letsargue · May 19th, 2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Untellectual

Many people believe the Sabbath commandment to be not moral, but ceremonial.

Where are you people getting all your nonsense?

The Sabbath is not to the Christians; the Sabbath of the Old Law that is. The Sabbath now is the same as being IN CHRIST, -- HE IS OUR REST / ETERNAL SABBATH, or Comforter, same thing. - We / “WE” are now in the Eternal Sabbath, We are now IN CHRIST, - not you all, but “WE”!! -- None of you can do anything to debunk that fact of Truth!!!

Paul – 051912

Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Letsargue

Where are you people getting all your nonsense?

The Sabbath is not to the Christians; the Sabbath of the Old Law that is. The Sabbath now is the same as being IN CHRIST, -- HE IS OUR REST / ETERNAL SABBATH, or Comforter, same thing. - We / “WE” are now in the Eternal Sabbath, We are now IN CHRIST, - not you all, but “WE”!! -- None of you can do anything to debunk that fact of Truth!!!

Paul – 051912

The idea is that the moral law is for Christians, and then that the Ten Commandments are the moral law.

Letsargue · May 19th, 2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Untellectual

There isn't a Bible verse about this unless you supply it.

Haven’t you read of the Children of Light, and of the children of darkness? - The children of darkness are of their father the Devil, - that family / HOUSE. ---- The Children of Light are of their Father who is the Light of the World and of the Kingdom, - that Family / House / Kingdom.

I just created some verses, whether you like it or not.

Paul – 051912

Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Letsargue

Haven’t you read of the Children of Light, and of the children of darkness? - The children of darkness are of their father the Devil, - that family / HOUSE. ---- The Children of Light are of their Father who is the Light of the World and of the Kingdom, - that Family / House / Kingdom.

I just created some verses, whether you like it or not.

Paul – 051912

There are two kingdoms. But you are talking about children and houses.

Letsargue · May 19th, 2012, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Untellectual

There are two kingdoms. But you are talking about children and houses.

The Children of Christ are His Family, which is His House. - Remember?? – “Save thee and thy HOUSE”. - Not the building, but his family / house. This is the House of Christ, His Church, His Body, His Kingdom, His World, His Creation!! – WE are Jesus’ total Creation!! - Reject that if you dare!!

It seems that you don't understand the tongues of the Angels!!

Paul – 051912

Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Letsargue

The Children of Christ are His Family, which is His House. - Remember?? – “Save thee and thy HOUSE”. - Not the building, but his family / house. This is the House of Christ, His Church, His Body, His Kingdom, His World, His Creation!! – WE are Jesus’ total Creation!! - Reject that if you dare!!

It seems that you don't understand the tongues of the Angels!!

Paul – 051912

Are you saying the kingdom of God is the house of Jesus?

Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 05:21 PM

I felt you were equating the kingdom of light with Jesus.

meshak · May 19th, 2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Untellectual

Jesus taught in Matthew 5 that He did not come to abolish the Law.

Jesus full filled permanently. What God gave to moses was temporary untill Jesus came.

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I'm asking you if in your view there are portions of the Law of Moses that are not of God.

Of course it was of God. God gave it to them. But it was just for temporary until Jesus came down to be sacrificed.

I urge you to read the NT until you feel confidence that you know everything what Jesus teaches and commands. Then you dont have to ask this kind of questions to anyone. You are trying to get information from other people. You can get them yourself and it is much better getting them on your own.

Jesus talks about the Sabbath too. Then you can decide what to do about the information Jesus gave to us.

Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 05:23 PM

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated [us] into the kingdom of his dear Son:

Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by meshak

Jesus full filled permanently. What God gave to moses was temporary untill Jesus came.

Of course it was of God. God gave it to them. But it was just for temporary until Jesus came down to be sacrificed.

I urge you to read the NT until you feel confidence that you know everything what Jesus teaches and commands. Then you dont have to ask this kind of questions to anyone. You are trying to get information from other people. You can get them yourself and it is much better getting them on your own.

Jesus talks about the Sabbath too. Then you can decide what to do about the information Jesus gave to us.

I believe Jesus taught about the sabbath.

The reason for questions is it helps us to together arrive at conclusions. Sometimes people have a better question, and this helps us to know what the answer is we are looking for.

The Ten Commandments were given to Moses by God.

Letsargue · May 19th, 2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Untellectual

Are you saying the kingdom of God is the house of Jesus?

In Old Time the Lord would tell the Prophet to say unto the people, “Thus saith the Lord”, --- but today we speak directly for the Lord, saying, --- “ Yes the Kingdom is the Church, the Body of Christ, the Family of Christ, His HOUSE”. --- 1 Peter 2:5 KJV ---&--- Hebrews 3:6 KJV ---&--- Hebrews 11:10 KJV –

Paul – 051912

Untellectual · May 19th, 2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Letsargue

In Old Time the Lord would tell the Prophet to say unto the people, “Thus saith the Lord”, --- but today we speak directly for the Lord, saying, --- “ Yes the Kingdom is the Church, the Body of Christ, the Family of Christ, His HOUSE”. --- 1 Peter 2:5 KJV ---&--- Hebrews 3:6 KJV ---&--- Hebrews 11:10 KJV –

Paul – 051912

I don't see the difference between saying you are speaking for the Lord and saying you are speaking for the Lord. Unless you are saying that you really don't have that authority but you are taking it upon youself that people would take everything you say as coming from God, without the need for saying God told you what to say.