Where Mary and Joseph married before Jesus was born?
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May 24th, 2012, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bling
I am real wanting to know is sexual intercourse is required for a marriage to occur?
No. While obviously under normal circumstances it would occur in the context of marriage, it isn't a requirement. One example of where it wouldn't occur include one or both parties being physically incapable of the act.
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To be a wife of a man, does she have to be married to that man?
I'm not sure how to parse this question. Are you meaning does it require a formal marriage ceremony?
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If marriage is a “covenant” relationship when does it occur and can there be an extend transition period going from not having a covenant to having a covenant without instructions on how you treat a wife you are not married to?
There's no such thing as "having a wife you are not married to". While there are many good reasons to have a formal ceremony and/or get a marriage license none of these are actually required in order to be married. Clearly communicated intent on the part of both parties is really all that's absolutely required.
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26 Now in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent by God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David.
Matthew 1
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly.
I am pretty sure betrothed is engagment, as married is a different word.
I read someplace that the custom in thoes days were long engagements then a marriage ceremony. But a couple were considered as one during the period of enagagement. I wish I could remember more.
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Yes I have studied the Scriptures and far more than most, but I do not know of any scripture to support your position.
So how about you help me out and share some with me!
Fair enough?
Doug
Joseph took unto himself his wife, would simply mean that they were Promised to each other, and Joseph was the head of his wife. -- That's exactly the same thing that existed between Jesus, and His wife, the Church, before Jesus and the Church were MARRIED!! -- Jesus, the HEAD, - of the BODY were separate until the marriage. The marriage of the Lamb and the Church "IS" the joining of the
"Head" to the "Body". GUESS WHAT THAT MEANS TO ALL YOUR DOCTRINES???
Paul -- 052812
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
Since Joseph did not have sex with Mary until after Jesus was born, clearly the bloodline through Mary would make Jesus a Levite.
The rationale for correctingthe church on this is Elizabeth.
Elizabeth married a priest, and the Law mandated that priest marry only Levite women.
Mary and Elizabeth were cousins, so their father's were brothers and Levites.
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!! WAY TO GO!!!!!
That makes Jesus the High Priest. - John the Baptist’s Father was HIGH PRIEST after his father was killed. - When John was Killed, Jesus WAS NEXT OF KIN, and Jesus was then High Priest after the death of John the Baptist.
Jesus was High Priest, (( AND )) KING, handed down by the Law of TWO DIFFERENT TRIBES!! ---- Luke 3:23 KJV – “And Jesus himself began to be, ----- about thirty years of age, THE SON OF JOSEPH”. -------//-- Joseph, the husband of Mary, was the next in line to be King when Joseph came up, - “NOT”, for the Lord took him. – Jesus, King and High Priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek!!! ---- NOW THAT’S “US”!!!!
Paul – 052912
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
If they weren't married, then wouldn't that make Jesus illegitimate?
NO, NO, NO!! -- They were BETTER than Married!!
1 Corinthians 7:37-38 KJV – “Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, HAVING NO NECESSITY, BUT HATH POWER OVER HIS OWN WILL, and hath so decreed in his heart THAT HE WILL KEEP HIS VIRGIN , doeth well.
38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he THAT GIVETH HER NOT IN MARRIAGE DOETH BETTER”. -------//--- This is exactly what Joseph did, and what Jesus was doing with the Church, BEFORE THE MARRIAGE!! – They were KEEPING THEIR VIRGINS, ( A VIRGIN ). – Espoused, is NOT MARRIAGE!! – 2 Corinthians 11:2 KJV – “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for (( I HAVE ESPOUSED )) YOU TO ONE (( HUSBAND )), that I MAY PRESENT YOU AS A CHASTE VIRGIN to Christ. -------//-- God just says it all!!
Paul – 052912
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
They were married. I thought the verse posted showed it. She was pregnant before they were married. Then she started showing while married but had not come together.
They were married. I thought the verse posted showed it. She was pregnant before they were married. Then she started showing while married but had not come together.
Marriage is not the same thing that it means to those who accept the rights by the State. To God, MARRIAGE is the “MERGER”, JOINING, CONNECTING, OR THE “SEX ACT” is the marriage, not the Promise, or the Espousal of marriage. Jesus and His father Joseph were only espoused to their wives, but not married to their WIVES. – 1 Corinthian 7:29 KJV – “Both they that have wives be as though they had none”. -------//--- Then, - not now, the married and the espoused were united to their WIVES. - Espoused were united by PROMISE, and the Married were united by the Sex Act!! – Both had wives!! – At least that’s what God says, not todays so called Christians and non-christians.
Paul – 052912
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
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