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May 26th, 2012, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
I think it is important that we be neither spiritists nor involved with the "new age".
Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
It is not a case of being a “spiritists” as you put it or anything to do with any new age philosophy or doctrine, but doing as I said for you to do in my 1st posting on this thread, then you'll learn how and what you can be saved from that requires you first learning the truth of the spirit and soul.
When you do that you will learn how and what you can be saved from. The blessings from that knowledge is awesome as God begins to move in your behalf, whether it be signs and wonders or other answers to your prayers is something that God decides.
However, it is the lack of knowledge that God said causes His people to perish, and by the same token it is the knowledge of the truth that causes Him to appear strong on their behalf. (let me know iof you need verses for that)
But, make no mistake about it with the knowledge of God in your heart, your heart becomes the place that Jesus said He is gone to prepare were father and son can be together.
Taking my bike out,
Blessings
Doug
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Romans 8:23 And not only [they], but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, [to wit], the redemption of our body.
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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May 26th, 2012, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by chrysostom
read what Jesus said
if
you don't understand Paul
You are directing.
What if you don't understand Paul and the word we have here is redemption?
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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May 26th, 2012, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Livelystone
It is not a case of being a “spiritists” as you put it or anything to do with any new age philosophy or doctrine, but doing as I said for you to do in my 1st posting on this thread, then you'll learn how and what you can be saved from that requires you first learning the truth of the spirit and soul.
When you do that you will learn how and what you can be saved from. The blessings from that knowledge is awesome as God begins to move in your behalf, whether it be signs and wonders or other answers to your prayers is something that God decides.
However, it is the lack of knowledge that God said causes His people to perish, and by the same token it is the knowledge of the truth that causes Him to appear strong on their behalf. (let me know iof you need verses for that)
But, make no mistake about it with the knowledge of God in your heart, your heart becomes the place that Jesus said He is gone to prepare were father and son can be together.
Taking my bike out,
Blessings
Doug
Why are you talking about learning about what you can be saved from, and learning the difference between soul and spirit? Cannot God save us by His Spirit? And then the question is what has He saved us from and what can He save others from.
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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May 26th, 2012, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by chrysostom
I don't have to understand Paul
I understand Jesus
Are you saying you ignore Paul saying this because Jesus said something different?
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
Can salvation occur before we are judged by Jesus on the day God has determined Jesus will judge us?
In other words, can a person be born again (saved) before that time? Is it possible to be born again before you die?
What do the scriptures say?
Are you using ( Born Again ) as, --- ( Created ) a “NEW CREATURE”, --- or ( Resurrected ) to walk a “NEW LIFE”, --- or ( Molded ) in the HANDS OF THE POTTER. --- or ( Translated ) into the “KINGDOM OF CHRIST”, --- or ( Baptized ) INTO CHRIST, --- or ( Washed in the Blood ) and MADE CLEAN, --- or ( Sanctified ) from the WORLD OF DARKNESS, --- or ( Been Glorified ), --- or ( Saved ) FROM YOUR SINS, --- or ( Blessed of Christ )???? – Well, just how are you referring to, “BEING BORN AGAIN”?? ---- Which one, or ones are not needed to cross that great gulf from the carnal to the Table of Christ in New Jerusalem, - that Holy City of God in Heaven, called the Heavenly Places Christ went to prepare for them who loved Him, which there is nothing seen or heard of man has never been thought of, or been taught???
Paul – 052612
---Gal. 4:16.
---"Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth"???
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II Timothy 2:15, Psalms 6:5, I John 3:1-2, Romans 5:1 I John 4:18, I Timothy 2:4-5, II Corinthians 9:8,11, III John 2
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May 26th, 2012, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
If a person is born again, have they been saved?
Can salvation occur before we are judged by Jesus on the day God has determined Jesus will judge us?
In other words, can a person be born again (saved) before that time? Is it possible to be born again before you die?
What do the scriptures say?
I Peter 1:23.
Born again, that is, born from above, is simply another term used to describe the gift of salvation.
Becoming born from above, is not by works any more than being born the first time was by our works.
What greater salvation can there be than to be born from above?
1. Jesus Christ was from above, we are born from above.
2. Jesus Christ was born the son of God, we are born from above sons of God, I John 3:1-2
3. Jesus Christ as the son of God had responsibilities and privileges assigned and given to him. We, too have responsibilities and privileges given to us. Ephesians 2:10, Galatians 4:1-7
Born again refers to our gift of salvation.
oatmeal
"And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42
"For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks?" Psalm 6:5
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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May 26th, 2012, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Letsargue
Are you using ( Born Again ) as, --- ( Created ) a “NEW CREATURE”, --- or ( Resurrected ) to walk a “NEW LIFE”, --- or ( Molded ) in the HANDS OF THE POTTER. --- or ( Translated ) into the “KINGDOM OF CHRIST”, --- or ( Baptized ) INTO CHRIST, --- or ( Washed in the Blood ) and MADE CLEAN, --- or ( Sanctified ) from the WORLD OF DARKNESS, --- or ( Been Glorified ), --- or ( Saved ) FROM YOUR SINS, --- or ( Blessed of Christ )???? – Well, just how are you referring to, “BEING BORN AGAIN”?? ---- Which one, or ones are not needed to cross that great gulf from the carnal to the Table of Christ in New Jerusalem, - that Holy City of God in Heaven, called the Heavenly Places Christ went to prepare for them who loved Him, which there is nothing seen or heard of man has never been thought of, or been taught???
Paul – 052612
How do the scriptures use the term "born again" as opposed to Hindu thought?
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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May 26th, 2012, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by oatmeal
we are born from above sons of God
What do you mean by this phrase?
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Your faith is what you believe in and by their fruit you shall know them
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May 26th, 2012, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Untellectual
Why are you talking about learning about what you can be saved from, and learning the difference between soul and spirit?
Until you learn how to overcome sin you haven't been saved from anything and you are still as you were.
Those who are condemned already for not believing on the name of the son of God are condemned unto living in sin. On the other hand those who do believe on the name of the son of God have been given a way to overcome sin.
But first you have to learn how, something that you are not going to learn how until you do as I have said.
But you always know better than me
Blessings
Doug
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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May 26th, 2012, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Letsargue
It would seem that you'd do well to worry about what God said, and not what everybody else has said in order to measure you Faith by.
Paul -- 052612
I was using what you have said, and you were asking if there is a born again that is not a part of this life.
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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Deuteronomy 6:6 (KJV) And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:
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May 26th, 2012, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Livelystone
Until you learn how to overcome sin you haven't been saved from anything and you are still as you were.
Those who are condemned already for not believing on the name of the son of God are condemned unto living in sin. On the other hand those who do believe on the name of the son of God have been given a way to overcome sin.
But first you have to learn how, something that you are not going to learn how until you do as I have said.
But you always know better than me
Blessings
Doug
Salvation is about God saving us by the Holy Spirit. We don't learn to overcome sin on our own.
Deuteronomy 10:12 (KJV) And now, Israel, what doth the LORD thy God require of thee, but to fear the LORD thy God, to walk in all his ways, and to love him, and to serve the LORD thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul,
Deuteronomy 10:13 (KJV) To keep the commandments of the LORD, and his statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good?
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