[godzilla]

Originally Posted by dave3712

John said No, I am not that prophet.
No, I am not the Elijah.

He would have been but he was rejected.

[Livelystone]

@LoveOfTheTruth

Reading your last post makes me think that you can understand what Malachi was saying about the voice in the wilderness yet to come.

Mal.3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts.

The simple understanding of this verse is that it is another reference to the spirit of Elijah appearing again, and the author Malachi makes reference to that fact at the end of this book. However, my point in mentioning about this messenger preparing the way for the Lord coming to his temple is the prophecy beyond Jesus and John.

Because there was not a temple of the Lord (us) until after the ascension of Jesus and the events of Pentecost, the above verse carries a much deeper meaning and points to another "coming" to the Lords Temple.

Something that Paul and the other apostles as well as Jesus talked about in prophecy, and one that we have not yet witnessed.

Blessings

Doug

[LoveOfTheTruth]

Originally Posted by Livelystone

@LoveOfTheTruth

Reading your last post makes me think that you can understand what Malachi was saying about the voice in the wilderness yet to come.

Mal.3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts.

The simple understanding of this verse is that it is another reference to the spirit of Elijah appearing again, and the author Malachi makes reference to that fact at the end of this book. However, my point in mentioning about this messenger preparing the way for the Lord coming to his temple is the prophecy beyond Jesus and John.

Because there was not a temple of the Lord (us) until after the ascension of Jesus and the events of Pentecost, the above verse carries a much deeper meaning and points to another "coming" to the Lords Temple.

Something that Paul and the other apostles as well as Jesus talked about in prophecy, and one that we have not yet witnessed.

Blessings

Doug

NEW "Jerusalem above IS !NOW! the mother of us all(son's of GOD, all of whom have their portion with The Messiah in The Family of Our Father and GOD)"! (Gal4:26, Eph3:15)

And as Paul had testified, brethren of The Messiah were "translated into The Kingdom of GOD's Dear Son", and then when the earthly, natural, temporal realm centered in old jerusalem was destroyed The Messiah delivered up The Kingdom unto Our Father and GOD so that GOD would be ALL in all" just as Paul prophesied!

And as you testified the body of the brethren of The Messiah is The Temple in which The Holy, Set Apart, Spirit of Our Father and GOD dwells!

Now why would another natural, earthly, physical realm once again be established?

For The LIFE is of The SPIRIT!

Sadly there are multitudes who follow hal lindsey on "the broad way to destruction" and in the writing of books there seems to be no end!

And if TRUTH can not bought, how then can TRUTH be sold?

"Freely you have received, freely give!"

So HOPE IS!

For TRUTH IS! The Truth will set you free, free indeed!

[dave3712]

Originally Posted by godzilla

He would have been but he was rejected.

How would that rationale apply to Jesus as the messiah, since he was rejected totally at the cross.
How would your logic get around this?

According to your rule, Jesus woukd not be the son-of-God because men rejected him?

[dave3712]

Originally Posted by Angel4Truth

dave wrote:
"He did no miracles as had the Elijah 800 years prior, nor did he state any prophecies according to the Gospels.

How could the messiah ben David come unless John was lying for some reason???

What about the "Seven Miracles of Elijah," which was an ancient tradition that said upon the return of Elijah he would perform those seven miracles and many more?

How do Christians explain this?"


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Unless its in scripture, why would we need to?

GOOD POINT....

What IS in scripture is the many miracles/acts Jesus did:


Both Elijah and Jesus raised the dead.

Both Elijah and Jesus were immortal.

Both Elijah and Jesus disappeared from the foot of a mountain.

Both Elijah and Jesus ascended into Heaven before witnesses.

Both Elijah and Jesus troubled Israel.

Both Elijah and Jesus were hunted down by the Jewish authorities.

Both Elijah and Jesus hid in a cave/tomb.

Both Elijah and Jesus pondered in the wilderness 40 days.

Both Elijah and Jesus walked on the water.

Both wrote letters to people on Earth after they had ascended.

Both appointed a successor, Elisha by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ.

Both were hunted by the Jewish authorities.

Both gave a successor the power to raise the dead.

Both gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other.

Both asked that the this "cup" be taken from them.

Both had miraculous births.

Both multiplied the meal for many people they feed in the crowd.

Both destroyed the pagan worshippers and priests, one Baal, the other, the Pantheon of Rome.

Both were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.

[LoveOfTheTruth]

Originally Posted by dave3712

GOOD POINT....

What IS in scripture is the many miracles/acts Jesus did:


Both Elijah and Jesus raised the dead.

Both Elijah and Jesus were immortal.

Both Elijah and Jesus disappeared from the foot of a mountain.

Both Elijah and Jesus ascended into Heaven before witnesses.

Both Elijah and Jesus troubled Israel.

Both Elijah and Jesus were hunted down by the Jewish authorities.

Both Elijah and Jesus hid in a cave/tomb.

Both Elijah and Jesus pondered in the wilderness 40 days.

Both Elijah and Jesus walked on the water.

Both wrote letters to people on Earth after they had ascended.

Both appointed a successor, Elisha by Elijah, and Peter, by Christ.

Both were hunted by the Jewish authorities.

Both gave a successor the power to raise the dead.

Both gave a successor a symbolic authority, the cloak to one, the keys to the other.

Both asked that the this "cup" be taken from them.

Both had miraculous births.

Both multiplied the meal for many people they feed in the crowd.

Both destroyed the pagan worshippers and priests, one Baal, the other, the Pantheon of Rome.

Both were promised faithfulness three times, Elisha in the former and Peter, in the latter.

Matt 17:1-13 > And after six days The Messiah took Peter, James, and John his brother, and brought them up into an high mountain.

And The Messiah was transfigured before them. And His face did shine as the sun, and His raiment was white as the light.

And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elijah talking with The Messiah.

Then Peter spoke, and said unto The Messiah, Lord, it is good for us to be here. If You will, let us make three tabernacles here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.

Yet while Peter yet spoke, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold a voice out of the cloud which said, "This is MY Beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased! Listen to Him!"

And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their faces, for they were sore afraid.

And The Messiah came and touched them, and said, "Arise, and be not afraid."

And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, except the Messiah.

And as they came down from the mountain, The Messiah charged them, saying, "Tell the vision to no man, until The Son of man be risen again from the dead."

And His disciples asked Him, saying, "Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?"

And The Messiah answered and said unto them, "Elijah shall truly come first and restore all things.

But I say unto you, that Elijah has come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatever they wanted.

Likewise shall also The Son of man suffer of them."

Then the disciples understood that He spake unto them of John the Baptist."

[dave3712]

Originally Posted by LoveOfTheTruth

Matt 17:1-13 > And after six days The Messiah took Peter, James, and John his brother, and brought them up into an high mountain.

And The Messiah was transfigured before them. And His face did shine as the sun, and His raiment was white as the light.

And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elijah talking with The Messiah.

Then Peter spoke, and said unto The Messiah, Lord, it is good for us to be here. If You will, let us make three tabernacles here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.

Yet while Peter yet spoke, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold a voice out of the cloud which said, "This is MY Beloved Son, in Whom I am well pleased! Listen to Him!"

And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their faces, for they were sore afraid.

And The Messiah came and touched them, and said, "Arise, and be not afraid."

And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, except the Messiah.

And as they came down from the mountain, The Messiah charged them, saying, "Tell the vision to no man, until The Son of man be risen again from the dead."

And His disciples asked Him, saying, "Why then do the scribes say that Elijah must come first?"

And The Messiah answered and said unto them, "Elijah shall truly come first and restore all things.

But I say unto you, that Elijah has come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatever they wanted.

Likewise shall also The Son of man suffer of them."

Then the disciples understood that He spake unto them of John the Baptist."

2X


Christ morphed back to a mere man at the transfiguration.

The son-of-man was transfigured when John had baptized Jesus (the son-of-man).
Jesus became the son of God at that moment.
Jesus was thereafter the Christ, the son-of-god.



Before the passover and his crucifixion, Christ was emptied out of the spirit of Elijah, and returned to a mere son-of-man as described in Matthew 17:2-4.
Elijah left him.

Elijah had been there in 32AD, but he left with Moses.

[Princely]

Only the one who comes from God has seen the Lord. I come from Him he sent me.

"Seek the Lord so you will live, says the Lord.Seek justice seek humility ,perhaps you'll be sheltered on the day of the Lords wrath."

"The Lord redeems the lives of His servants. No one who takes refuge in Him incurs guilt."

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has anointed me. He has sent me to bring glad tidings to the poor, to proclaim liberty to captives and give sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, and to proclaim a year of favor from the Lord.

I am Elijah, whom Jesus testified to.

"I'm going to make right a measuring line and justice a level."

[Livelystone]

Originally Posted by Princely

Only the one who comes from God has seen the Lord. I come from Him he sent me.

"Seek the Lord so you will live, says the Lord.Seek justice seek humility ,perhaps you'll be sheltered on the day of the Lords wrath."

"The Lord redeems the lives of His servants. No one who takes refuge in Him incurs guilt."

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because He has anointed me. He has sent me to bring glad tidings to the poor, to proclaim liberty to captives and give sight to the blind, to let the oppressed go free, and to proclaim a year of favor from the Lord.

I am Elijah, whom Jesus testified to.

"I'm going to make right a measuring line and justice a level."

Are you just forgetting to use quote marks in some of your above statements. If not and you speak for yourself..............

How did you happen to come by this “special anointing”

Thanks in advance

Doug

[LoveOfTheTruth]

Simply The HOLY, SET APART, SPIRIT that IS GOD was IN The Messiah!

As bore witness of in 2 Cor 5:18-19 > "And all things are of GOD, WHO has reconciled us to HIMSELF by Johsua The Messiah, and has given to us the ministry of such a reconciliation!

Testifying, that GOD(SPIRIT) was IN The Messiah, reconciling the world unto HIMSELF, not imputing their trespasses unto them, and has committed unto us The Word of reconciliation."

[dave3712]

[quote=Princely;3090939]

Only the one who comes from God has seen the Lord.


[quote]

his same statement was made by St John when he hinted to us that Jesus was the Elijah returned in 32AD:



13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven (as we read about in 32AD), but he, (The Elijah), that came down (after 800 years) from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven, (now).

[LoveOfTheTruth]

[quote=dave3712;3091152][quote=Princely;3090939]

Only the one who comes from God has seen the Lord.

his same statement was made by St John when he hinted to us that Jesus was the Elijah returned in 32AD:

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven (as we read about in 32AD), but he, (The Elijah), that came down (after 800 years) from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven, (now).

Let There Be Light!"

"In The Beginning" The Creator(GOD, Our Father) said;

""Let There Be Light", and There Was Light"!

LIGHT Begot Light!

"The Beginning of The Creation of GOD!"

And the revelation that The Messiah received of The Creator(GOD, Our Father) and gave unto the apostle John, bore witness to The Truth that The Messiah, was "The Beginning of the Creation of GOD(Our Father, Creator of ALL)"! (Rev1:1, 3:14) LIGHT begot Light!

And The Messiah bore witness of His Brethren when He testified, "My GOD is your GOD and My Father(Creator) is your Father(Creator)." (Jn 20:17)

The Messiah testified "I have sent My angel to you with this testimony for the assemblies. I am the root and the offspring of David. I am the bright Morning Star(Light)"! (Rev 22:16) )

Peter testified, "We have the more sure word of prophecy; and you do well to take heed, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns, and The Morning Star(Light) arises in your hearts."(2Pt 1:19)

"But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, HIS own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of HIM who called you out of darkness into His marvelous Light."(1Pt2:9)

And the evening(darkness) and The Morning (Light) was the First Day)." (Gen 1:5)

LIGHT Begot Light!

"The Beginning of The Creation of GOD"!

It is very important to both know and experience The Messiah as He Is, Was and always Will Be, and also to know the "glory He had with Our Father" before He was born in "the likeness of sinful flesh". (John 17:5, Rom 8:3) For what The Messiah Was and Is, Is that which He always Will Be. "The Only Begotten Son" of "Our Father"!

First, let me simply state that I do not believe the "catholic" and "christian" theo'ry'logical doctrines concerning "The Only True GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL". For they "image"ine a three-headed "GOD" they call their "trinity", or they declare their "christ" to be their "GOD and father", or they believe that The Messiah was but an exalted messenger(angel) or prophet.

John The Baptist testified, "And I saw, and bare record that The Messiah is the Son of GOD(Our Father)."(John 1:34) Peter testified, "You are The Messiah, The Son of The Living GOD(Father of ALL)"!(Matt 16:16)

And the Ethiopian eunuch testified, "I believe that The Messiah is The Son of GOD(Our Father)". (Acts 8:37)

"Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the Heavens, The Messiah, The Son of GOD(Our Father), let us hold fast our profession." (Heb 4:14)

"These things are written so that you might believe that The Messiah is The Son of GOD(Our Father)". (John 20:31)

The Messiah testified that He was "The Son of GOD", and that His GOD was "The Only True GOD(Father of ALL)".(John 10:36,17:3)

And The Messiah also testified that He was the "Son of man" and "The Light of the world". (Matt 26:64, John 8:12)

It is needful to believe that The Messiah Was, Is and always Will Be "The Son of The Living GOD", and that there is but "One GOD, HE WHO is Father(Creator) of ALL". (Mat 16:16, Eph 4:6)

The Messiah bore witness to His Brethren when He testified after being "raised from among the dead", "My GOD is your GOD and My Father(Creator) is your Father(Creator)" (John 20:17)

Is The Messiah's GOD and Father your GOD and Father?

Are you one of The Messiah's brethren?

"Let There Be Light"

Once again, It is very important to both know and experience The Messiah as He Was, Is and always Will Be.

The Messiah simply testified in John 17:5 "And now O Father, glorify Me with YOUR own self with the glory that I had with YOU before the world began".

Prior to that testimony The Messiah had testified, "Yet a little while is The Light with you. Walk while you have The Light, lest darkness comes upon you: for he that walks in darkness does not know where he goes. While you have Light, believe in The Light, that you may be the children of Light." (John 12:35-36)

And the apostle John testified: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with GOD, and The Word was GOD. (John did not testify that The Word is GOD).

The same was in the beginning with GOD.

All things were made by Him, and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

In Him was Life; and The Life was The Light of men.

And The Light shined in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

There was a man sent from GOD, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of The Light, that all men through Him might believe.

He(John the baptist) was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.

That was the True Light, which enlightens every man that comes into the world.

He(The Messiah) was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not.

He came unto His own, and His own received Him not.

But as many as received Him, to them He gave power to become the sons of GOD, even to them that believe on His name:

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of "The Only True GOD, Father(Creator) of ALL"." (John 1:1-13)

It is needful to realize that The Messiah testified of "The Only True GOD" in John 17:3, and so it is that The GOD and Father of The Messiah IS, WAS and always WILL BE "The Only True GOD".

"And The Only True GOD" is "Father(Creator) of ALL"!

And "The Father(Creator) of ALL" is "Our Father", HE WHO IS "The Only True GOD" and Father of The Messiah and His brethren.

And the apostle John testified in John 3:17-21: "For Our Father sent not HIS Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.

He that believes on Him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of GOD(Our Father).

And this is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil.

For every one that does evil hates The Light, neither comes to The Light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

But he that does Truth comes to The Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in GOD(Our Father, Creator)."

In John 12:34 the people asked, "Who is this Son of man?

Then in John 12:35-36, "The Messiah said unto them, yet a little while is The Light with you. Walk while you have The Light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walks in darkness does not know where he goes.

While you have Light, believe in The Light, that you may be the children of LIGHT. The Messiah spoke these things, and departed, and hid Himself from them."

Simply, "In The Beginning" The Only True GOD spoke The Word, "Let There Be Light", "And there was Light"!

"And there was evening(darkness) and there was morning (Light), The First Day". (Gen 1:5)

Certainly such "Light" was not "natural" light, for "natural" light, the sun, moon, and stars were not created until the "fourth day". (Gen 1:14-19)

"In the beginning", "The First Day", The Father of All created "The Light", without which Creation and Life, as we now know and experience it, could not have been.

The First Day, "The Light", The Messiah, "The beginning of the Creation of GOD (HE WHO is The Only True GOD and Father of ALL)"! (Gen 1:3, Rev 3:14, John 17:3, Eph 4:6)

And "The Only True GOD" created all "things" by, through, in and of "The Light", The Messiah, "The Son of The Living GOD" and "Son of man"! (Col 1:15, Eph 3:9, Mat 16:16, Mat 12:32)

LIGHT begot Light!

And "The True Light which enlightens every man coming into the world", was born as a child destined to be The Messiah. (John 1:9, Mat 1:21)

The Messiah, "The Light of the world". (John 8:12, 9:5)

The Messiah, "The firstborn of all Creation". (Col 1:15)

The Messiah, "Begotten of Our Father", "The firstborn among many Brethren". (Heb 1:5) (Ps 2:7) (Rom 8:29)

The Messiah, "A servant of The Only True GOD(Father(Creator of ALL)". (Isa 42:1-7)

The Messiah, "The Lamb of GOD". (John 1:29,36)

The Messiah, "The firstborn from among the dead". (Col 1:18)

Once again: "In The Beginning" Our Father, "The Only True GOD" said:

""Let There Be Light", and there was Light"!

The Messiah, "The Beginning of the Creation of GOD", "the firstborn of All Creation". (Gen 1:3, John 17:3, Rev 3:14, Col 1:15)

All Thanks and Praise Be Unto "Our Father"!

The Messiah, The Creation of "The Only True GOD, Father of ALL"! (Rev 3:14)

The Messiah, "made so much better than the angels"! (Heb 1:4)

The Messiah, "The Light of the world"! (John 8:12, 9:5)

"The Lamb of GOD", "The Light of The New Heavenly Jerusalem"! (Rev 21:22-23)

Paul experienced "The Light " on the road to Damascus. "And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and came near unto Damascus about noontime, suddenly a great Light from Heaven shone round about me. And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me? And I answered, "Who are You, Master"? And He said unto me, I am Yehowshuwa' (Y'shua, Joshua) of Nazareth, Whom you persecute. And they that were with me saw The Light, and were afraid; but they did not hear the voice of Him that spoke to me. And I said, "What shall I do, Master"? And He said unto me, arise and go into Damascus, and there you shall be told all things which are appointed for you to do. And when I could not see for the glory of that Light, I was led by the hand into Damascus." (Acts 22:6-11)

Paul also testified, "At midday I saw in the way a Light from Heaven, ABOVE THE BRIGHTNESS OF THE SUN, shining round about me and those who journeyed with me. And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the HEBREW tongue, Saul, Saul, why do you persecute Me? It is hard for you to kick against the pricks." (The Messiah could not have told Paul, "I am jesus" for He spoke in the "HEBREW tongue") (Acts 26:13-14)

Paul saw "The Light" that was The Messiah and he was blinded(naturally, not Spiritually) for a time. Now when The Messiah was in the "likeness of sinful flesh", born as "the Son of man", He could only reflect "The Light", liken unto the moon which but reflects the light of the natural sun.

"Let There Be Light"

The Messiah, "The Light of the world"!

And consider the natural light provided by the sun, which was Created on the fourth day. Does not the natural light of the sun reveal outwardly, all the earthly, natural things? Consider what happens when that which you thought was clean is exposed to the light of the sun? Is not the least outward particle of uncleanness readily seen in the light of the sun?

And so it is with "The Light" that is The Messiah. For His Life, "The Life", reveals and exposes all the uncleanness in "our" life; the life that is of "our" own creation, which is the "I(ego,id,self)" in all of us ;-( The product of "our" own vain "imag"inations! So it needs be that "The Light" penetrates deeply, even into the innermost recesses of the heart, "rightly dividing the soul and spirit", exposing all the darkness that the "I" in all of us does not want to "see"!

Yet for such a cleansing to begin one must "experience The Messiah(The Light) and The Power that raised Him from among the dead"!(Phlp 3:10)

Oh, there are many who know of a "messiah", yet who has experienced "The Light"?

For "The Light" was "The Beginning of Creation" both the old, which was natural, earthly and temporal; and The New, which is of The Spirit, Heavenly and Eternal!

Those who "love this world and it's things" yet desire that which "decayed, waxed old and vanished away" (Heb 8:13)

They are of those "whose 'GOD' is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, because they mind earthly things". (Phlp 3:19)

Sadly, those who "love this world and it's things" yet "love darkness more than The Light" and they will abide in the darkness they loved forever ;-( (1John 2:15, John 3:19-20)

Sadder yet, systems of religion that are of this world, such as "catholicism", "christianity", "judaism", "islam", etc., have killed and enslaved multiplied millions in the name of their god(s)!

One of many reasons why religion causes "The Way of Truth is evil spoken of"! (2Pet 2:2)

And because of religion's theo'ry'logical, heretical doctrines, confusion reigns!

And especially those theo'ry'logical doctrines which seek to define "The Only True GOD, Father(Creator) of All".

All such doctrines are but the product of mankind's "imag"ination, and sadly mankind's "imag"ination is destroying Creation(air, water, land, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Truth, Love, Peace, Grace, Faith,,,, ALL that is Truly GOOD) ;-(

Yes, sadly ;-( Creation is being destroyed by self-willed men who could care less about that which is of The Truth(What Is, Was, and Always Will Be), and care even less about those things which they can not comprehend apart from their "natural" senses and mental processes ;-(

And The Truth testifies, The Creator "will destroy those who destroy the earth(HIS Creation)"(Rev 11:18).

Sadly, in this wicked world, those who seek profit will naturally overcome those who do not ;-(

Yet, There Is Hope!

For The Life is of The Spirit!

And Miracles do happen!

And Faith rejoices against profit(greed) and theo'ry'logy(logic)!

Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "a love of The Truth" for they will "see" "The Light". (2Thes 2:10, John 8:12, 9:5)

And they will receive peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world, for they will clearly "see" that "The WHOLE world is under the control of the evil one". (1John 5:19) And they will clearly "see" things as they are and not as "imag"inative, world-loving humans would have others believe them to be, for they will "see" The Light that is The Messiah......

[OMEGA]

Regarding Dave the 12 years old.

Why do people bother with another Biblically ignorant teenager.

[dave3712]

[quote=LoveOfTheTruth;3091198][quote=dave3712;3091152]

statement was made by St John when he hinted to us that Jesus was the Elijah returned in 32AD:

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven (as we read about in 32AD), but he, (The Elijah), that came down (after 800 years) from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven, (now).

Originally Posted by Princely

Only the one who comes from God has seen the Lord.


Let There Be Light!"......

So the one who came in 32AD was the same as the Christ who went up after the crucifixion, iyo...????

[Princely]

Originally Posted by Livelystone

Are you just forgetting to use quote marks in some of your above statements. If not and you speak for yourself..............

How did you happen to come by this “special anointing”

Thanks in advance

Doug

Yes that scripture is fulfilled in me. How did I get this anointing? By doing what Jesus commanded. He said As the Father sent me that is how I send you. So, that is what I do. He said He gave the words the Father gave Him to those who accept them. So I accepted them.He sanctifies His true followers in truth as He said. I am sanctified in truth.

Whoever accepts me accepts the one who sent me.

Scripture has it;

The Lord’s delight is those who speak the truth, and those who speak what is right he loves.

The Lord is far from the wicked, but he hears the prayer of the just .

The wicked man does deceptive work, But he who sows righteousness will have a sure reward.

As righteousness leads to life, So he who pursues evil pursues it to his own death.

The root of the righteous yields fruit.

In the way of righteousness is life, And in its pathway there is no death."

I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.
Everything that the Lord gives me will come to me, and I will not reject anyone who comes to me, because I came down from heaven not to do my own will but the will of the One who sent me.