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June 6th, 2012, 09:27 AM

Omega lists this

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as tho that were a book in the Bible...

But whatever it is

its NOT in the Bible

i have read the entire Bible and there is NOTHING like that there

please, everyone, do not accept what some say is Scirpture without checking it out yourselves...

the Douay Rheims Bible is probably the most accurate of them all, although others are good too... Personally i dont care for the Good News Bible, which, from what i can tell, changes the Word around...



   
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June 6th, 2012, 09:29 AM

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yes, for sure

& rather proves the point

that they need something more than... what they have

they think they have the Word of God

but a lot of them seem to lack even that

after all the Word tells us to love neibhbor as self

none of us is goingto be perfect @ that all the time... we are still human and sinners after accepting Christ... But

well, some... seroiusly... it seems some dont even TRY...

patium churchhatium

hissium serpentum
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they seem to be having a bad day... evry day...
They think that OSAS means there is no reason to try. Plus they would rather err on the side of "being meaner than God" than err on the side of "being nicer than God".





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June 6th, 2012, 09:30 AM

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Lastly can you possibly stop spamming up the religion section? Its getting annoying, you have several threads on the same thing over and over.
Exactly!



   
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June 6th, 2012, 09:33 AM

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They think that OSAS means there is no reason to try.
That's not true! I try and fail all the time. If I thought I could lose my salvation I would stop trying.

My failures tell me that OSAS must be true or I could not be saved.



   
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June 6th, 2012, 09:35 AM

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They think that OSAS means there is no reason to try. Plus they would rather err on the side of "being meaner than God" than err on the side of "being nicer than God".
so true

that term Nicer than God is interesting

reminds me of Nancy Pelosi

Kathleen Sebellius

they would be nicer than God by allowing women to kill their children (abortion)

and by forcing Catholics and other Christians who dont believe in such

to promote it and support it just the same...

some Nicer than God...



   
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June 6th, 2012, 09:37 AM

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That's not true! I try and fail all the time. If I thought I could lose my salvation I would stop trying.

My failures tell me that OSAS must be true or I could not be saved.
we all fail in the area of venial sin

but it is NOT impossible to stay far from mortal sin

esp if one is Catholic

the RCC has the means to destroy the works of the devil.

"I will build My Church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it"

Mt 16:18



   
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June 6th, 2012, 09:38 AM

Jesus never promised

that the gates of Hell would not prevail against ANYTHING

other than

HIS

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June 6th, 2012, 09:49 AM

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we all fail in the area of venial sin

but it is NOT impossible to stay far from mortal sin

esp if one is Catholic


the RCC has the means to destroy the works of the devil.
You walked right into it with your "esp if one is a Catholic" rhetoric. Tell the part I highlighted to the Catholic Priests who molest children. And tell that to their leaders who cover up their sin for thier cover up would also be a "mortal" sin.

Did Jesus die for mortal sins?



   
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June 6th, 2012, 09:49 AM

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That's not true!
Perhaps not for all. I apologize for over generalizing.

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I try and fail all the time.
Same here.

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If I thought I could lose my salvation I would stop trying.
Why?

Do you need to feel there is some other reward at the end of the rainbow to do the right thing?

I think doing the right thing is its own reward.

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My failures tell me that OSAS must be true or I could not be saved.
I am not sure how you arrive at that conclusion. Can you explain that in more detail?

I don't need it to be either way. It is a question that is moot to me. Because whether or not OSAS is true I would still choose understanding over the alternative.





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June 6th, 2012, 10:22 AM

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this makes no sense


Of course it doesn't, God said it!!

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Do you need to feel there is some other reward at the end of the rainbow to do the right thing?
No you don't. You feel that salvation is the reward. The scripture says it's a free gift.

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I think doing the right thing is its own reward.
No you don't. You think that salvation is the reward. And yes I think doing the right thing is its own reward. I was saying that if salvation is the reward my efforts are futile because I could never earn life. So why bother because God requires nothing less than perfection if it is up to me.



   
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June 6th, 2012, 11:06 AM

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No you don't. You feel that salvation is the reward.


No you don't. You think that salvation is the reward.

No, you are wrong. Please stop lying about me. You are not so wile. I gave you no reason to make such a claim. You on the other hand expressed that you would not try if you did not know you had salvation. You are being evasive and deceitful. You may be able to fool yourself, but I am not so gullible. You are obviously defensive because your little ruse has been uncovered.





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No, you are wrong. Please stop lying about me. You are not so wile. I gave you no reason to make such a claim.
I'm confused. Do you confess or deny OSAS?

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You on the other hand expressed that you would not try if you did not know you had salvation.
You have a reading comprehension problem. I said that if salvation is my motivation I would not try because I know I am condemned.

I did NOT say that I did not know I had salvation. I said that if salvation is the reward of my efforts I know that I do not have salvation.

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I was saying that if salvation is the reward my efforts are futile because I could never earn life. So why bother because God requires nothing less than perfection if it is up to me."
If I offend in one point I am guilty of the WHOLE law and am condemned. Happiness is my motivation. If I continue in sin I am promised misery but not condemnation. Because I am saved I cannot be condemned.

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Yet YOU twisted my words.

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You may be able to fool yourself, but I am not so gullible. You are obviously defensive because your little ruse has been uncovered.
Whatever.



   
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June 6th, 2012, 11:39 AM

noguru,

I positive rep'd you in reply to your twisting my words and your neg rep.



   
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If I become rude it is because I get tired of stupid people.
"stupid people" = "anyone who fails to agree with Lighthouse's theological preferences and opinions"




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