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Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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June 13th, 2012, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cruciform
Merely a straightforwardly false statement on Pate's part. He actually has no idea whatsoever what Catholics do or don't "mean," as is shown in every one of his anti-Catholic posts on this forum.
The rest of his post is merely a mindless regurgitation of the opinions of his favored anti-Catholic sectarian religious tradition. No response required.
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You seem to think that savation is Jesus Christ, plus the Catholic church.
Think of it this way. The law really is religion or the Catholic church.
The law is something that we do. Any religious thing that you do is a work of the law.
Paul is trying to tell you that we are not saved by what we do, which is law, religion, Catholicism, etc.
Trying to be saved this way (By what you do) means that you are under a curse, Galatians 3:10.
The reason is that no matter what you do it will never meet God's standard, which is perfection.
What is sad about this is that you are going to spend your whole life trying to be good enough, only to find out that you went to hell trying to be good enough. such a waste.
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June 13th, 2012, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
You seem to think that savation is Jesus Christ, plus the Catholic church.Think of it this way.The law really is religion or the Catholic church.The law is something that we do.Any religious thing that you do is a work of the law.Paul is trying to tell you that we are not saved by what we do, which is law, religion, Catholicism, etc.Trying to be saved this way (By what you do) means that you are under a curse, Galatians 3:10.The reason is that no matter what you do it will never meet God's standard, which is perfection.What is sad about this is that you are going to spend your whole life trying to be good enough, only to find out that you went to hell trying to be good enough.such a waste.
Already answered in numerous posts on a dozen different threads. Moving on...
(See Post #15 above.)
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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June 13th, 2012, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
What are you going to say when you are standing before a Holy God in the judgment?
Absolutely nothing. Why...did you have a speech worked up for the occasion?
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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June 14th, 2012, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
I think...
Nobody cares.
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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June 14th, 2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
That's what you like to think. God's word, the Gospel, is going forth, it will accomplish its purpose. You will be judged by what you have heard.
...as will you.
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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June 14th, 2012, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
Sorry, but I will not be in the judgment.
Good luck with that. In any case, you've been thoroughly answered in my previous posts above. There's really no need for me to continue wasting time on this thread. Moving on...
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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Sinners cannot save sinners, nor can sinners save themselves.
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June 15th, 2012, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruciform
Good luck with that. In any case, you've been thoroughly answered in my previous posts above. There's really no need for me to continue wasting time on this thread. Moving on...
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All who are "In Christ" will not be judged for their sins.
They have already been judged and put to death "In Christ."
When Christ died they died with him, Romans 6:3.
When Christ was raised from the dead they were raised with him, Romans 6:5.
When Christ ascended into heaven they ascended with him, Colossians 3:1.
When Christ entered into heaven they entered in with him, Ephesians 2:6.
Are you sure that you want to reject the Gospel and embrace Catholicism?
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June 15th, 2012, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert Pate
All who are "In Christ" will not be judged for their sins.They have already been judged and put to death "In Christ."When Christ died they died with him, Romans 6:3.When Christ was raised from the dead they were raised with him, Romans 6:5.When Christ ascended into heaven they ascended with him, Colossians 3:1.When Christ entered into heaven they entered in with him, Ephesians 2:6.Are you sure that you want to reject the Gospel and embrace Catholicism?
See previous posts above.
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"The very tradition, teaching, & faith of the Catholic Church from the beginning was preached by the Apostles & preserved by the Fathers. On this the Church was founded..." ~ St. Athanasius (4th cent.)
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June 15th, 2012, 04:09 PM
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There are serious consequences for those who reject Christ's Gospel.
Back at you.
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June 13th, 2012, 04:34 PM
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