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I accept the claims of the video. I have no problem using such processes for inflamatory relief.
Now we are getting somewhere.
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My point was how "people seeking relief from problems in life often use whatever is first available". And those things are sometimes addictive. My other point was that feeling the relaxation we get from natural endorphins is obviously not a sin in the Bible, and how opiates simply flood the body with a replacement of that.
I started out by saying I have mixed feelings on the issue and I finished by saying I want to know more. I did not say that I am in favor of giving permission to everybody that thinks they have an excuse to try it.
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Endorphins are very helpful in covering up our pain, and relaxing us when necessary. So that bodily feeling is not the problem. Rather the problem arises more abruptly when modern technology gives us the tools to throw a monkey wrench into the gears of the way our body functions.
The subjects overlap each other because of the interdependance of the various human biological systems which overlap each other.
I realize that your "Don't get high" motto leads you to want to keep these things seperate. But the reality is much different. We can get high without drugs, some drugs don't even make us high but can be abused. And there is a gradient in known substances of how high each substance might get us.
A good example is the caffiene, cocaine, methamphetamine gradient. Caffeine is a mild amphetamine, cocaine is a little stronger, and methampetamine is the strongest. Caffiene is also a vassal dilator and works as a pain reliever for headaches, but addiction to it will cause headaches when none is present in the blood. Because after the circulatory system gets use to it for that purpose they shrink when it is absent.
At which point does it become a sin?
You know in some rehabs they have decaffienated coffee, because a lot of cocaine users will down a multitude of cups of coffee to reach the desired effect. When I was in my early 20s I use to drink so much coffee during the week at work, that on the weekends when I did not drink any I would get headaches and irritable. I am trying to point out that this use/abuse thing is not as clear cut as many would like to believe. And some people slip into abuse from use without making a conscious decision to cross that line.
In one of my previous posts I explained this and clearly demonstrated how it relates to scripture.
I have experienced the weekend headache from coffee when I used to drink more of it than I do now. When I realized I was getting a headache every Saturday I quit drinking coffee for a while. I am currently back to drinking coffee 6 days a week and don't get headaches on Saturday. If they start I will back off.
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"I was going to go to the Pot Rally, ...but then I got high..." Youtube, Afroman
"But if anyone, even an angel from heaven,
were to preach any other gospel than that of
Jesus the Christ, crucified, buried, and
raised from the dead by God the Father,
to deliver us from this present evil world,
let that false preacher be accursed.' (Gal 1:1-4,8-9)
Try having a "still" in your backyard and see what happens.
Well, I know hundreds of people who smoke pot just to relax, and I know none who pass out or put lamp shades on their heads or beat their girlfriends when they've had too many bong hits. They eat and laugh...wow...that is so dangerous.
Yes, being a stoner is very godly and creates such a clear and sober mind.
Withdrawal symptoms to marijuana can be somewhat characterized as the opposite to the intoxicating effects of the drug…instead of hunger, a loss of appetite, and instead of drowsiness, an inability to sleep.
Some additional symptoms of marijuana withdrawal can include headache, nausea, anxiety (common) paranoia and even irritability or aggression.
These sensations will endure with some intensity for several days before gradually subsiding, and it is during this period that the cravings to use are strongest, and there is the greatest risk of relapse.
It's completely different than almost every other drug.
In this regard I think you are actually referring to it's level of toxicity. You know how much it would take to overdose. With THC it is so high that you cannot possibly smoke that much. Although it can cause hypoglycemia and syncope as a result of its effect on blood sugar and blood pressure in certain situations. This is not a result of its toxicity and such reactions can be easily remedied.
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June 20th, 2012, 07:08 AM
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I cant point it out and you know it since you edited and removed it. I have nothing else to say to a liar. Keep neg repping me, thats 2 now in the course of a couple hours, i consider it a blessing.
So in other words all you have is your paranoid unsubstantiated claim. I will continue to neg rep you as you continue to lie. Good I am glad you consider it a blessing, because you are certainly at a loss in that area when it comes to honesty and an accurate view of reality.
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June 20th, 2012, 07:49 AM
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Sure. That's why a guy I know let the police search him when he knowingly had some in his pocket, because he thought he had to since they asked if they could.
It definitely affects the short term memory in a negative way. But they also have experiments where it actually increases the ability to make logical associations between words/ideas that are in long term memory.
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June 20th, 2012, 08:20 AM
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Try having a "still" in your backyard and see what happens.
I can legally purchase and use a still in most places in the US. The only thing that would be illegal would be selling the alcohol produced to others without a license to do so.
They have ones ranging from 30 gallons (the initial mash) to 300 gallons and probably larger. However, the alcohol return on that is only about 8 to 10 percent.
So in other words all you have is your paranoid unsubstantiated claim. I will continue to neg rep you as you continue to lie. Good I am glad you consider it a blessing, because you are certainly at a loss in that area when it comes to honesty and an accurate view of reality.
Anyone who wants the truth, can click the little arrows in our quotes back and forth then see i asked you something, that you answered 2 posts BEFORE i asked it, showing clearly that isnt what you said originally. I wouldnt have asked if that was there before and me asking was based on your post - BEFORE you editted it to cover your issue that my remark was responding to.
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June 20th, 2012, 02:57 PM
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Anyone who wants the truth, can click the little arrows in our quotes back and forth then see i asked you something, that you answered 2 posts BEFORE i asked it, showing clearly that isnt what you said originally. I wouldnt have asked if that was there before and me asking was based on your post - BEFORE you editted it to cover your issue that my remark was responding to.
Anyone can figure it out. Keep lying though.
I did not originally post what you claim I did. I posted "I never said 'I did not ever stick a needle in my arm.'". Because your use of a double negative confused me as to what you were asking. It is really rather simple, but your convoluted and confused style has really muddied up the water. And I guess you are now going to claim this is just an excuse. I will ask you why I would lie to you about this? I have made it very clear to anyone who knows my history that in 1991 I began snorting heroin. Then about a year into it I began shooting it. My addiction increased so much that by the end of 1993 I went through all of my savings. Since I chose never to steal to support my habit I went into rehab on Dec 31, 1993. You are not fooling anyone.
Let's assume you are being truthful.
What was my answer 2 posts before you asked that I contradicted later?
Can you prove that I contradicted myself with clear evidence rather than vague inaccurate accusations?
You need to tighten up your ship. This behavior might work with most people in your life, but it is not working here.
I just went back and looked at the dialogue, and it is clear that you are a complete liar about this. Nowhere is there any evidence of your claims. Nowhere does it say that I edited my posts. Nor do you have any evidence that I edited it from what you claim I said. You really are an idiot as well.
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Did God make marijuana? Has God made anything that is unclean?
Yes - God made loads of things that aren't best for ingestion (hemp used as rope, cloth, etc..) and yes, God made things that are unclean - unsaved humans are unclean.
Yes - God made loads of things that aren't best for ingestion (hemp used as rope, cloth, etc..) and yes, God made things that are unclean - unsaved humans are unclean.
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