i probably would NOT be a Christian if the Bible was all i had...
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Heb 5:12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
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1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in the truth.
The Word of God? produced by a Church, or produced by God Himself?
Will this arrogant church ever humble itself and accept that the scriptures, as divinely inspired were produced BY GOD and NOT by men; and then humble itself to obey it?
No. what we have here in a church that places itself above the scriptures is a licence to make stuff up as it goes. And this kind of power is such they will never give up, for power does corrupt
For history is replete with stuff the roman church has made up. This is seen by reading the plain words of scripture then comparing them with the teachings of any church (which, incidentally is what the Bible is for)
I am sickened by protestant arrogance but realize i am naive to think that the Roman church has no share in arrogance
If the Bible is of divine origin, then its meaning should be self-evident; interpretation should be unnecessary.
Except that people are ignorant and want to interpret any message from God because they don't want to believe He could be straightforward because we'd be "too lowly to understand Him." They want to treat it like art, as though it's valid to say it has a different meaning for every person.
Slogan/motto:
"Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God."-1 Cor. 10:31 KJV
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June 19th, 2012, 11:04 PM
Translation of this thread:I, TruthSetsFree, do not have exhaustive, all knowing knowledge of what makes an airplane fly, the principles of flight, whether it be the principle of "lift".................................as I don't "get" it all, so throw out airplanes, and I will hitchhike.
Slogan/motto:
For as much as it depends on you, live at peace with others.
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June 20th, 2012, 09:43 AM
The bible is only an affirmation of what the Holy Spirit has written on your heart... if you look to the Bible or a Church for absolute authority on anything, you are deafening the Holy Spirits work in you.
Seriously, Jesus prophesied that the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth and God would write his laws on the hearts and minds of his true children... neither of these two things are a churches job... in fact they are anti-Christ.
I honestly believe that the above is why each and every so called church in the world will eventually be exposed for vile sins and false teaching it commits when the Lord decides to reveal such to his children.
Hence we have all the protestant and catholic self appointed leaders that have false prophesied, gotten involved in money laundering, got caught in homosexual acts, child abuse, etc. Human institutions will always be filled with sinful people, and those that lead such institutions are always the most sinful.
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
Reputation:
June 20th, 2012, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by john w
Translation of this thread:I, TruthSetsFree, do not have exhaustive, all knowing knowledge of what makes an airplane fly, the principles of flight, whether it be the principle of "lift".................................as I don't "get" it all, so throw out airplanes, and I will hitchhike.
Log in, lose your mind.
End of thread.
2 Tim 3:16-17 (KJV) is a lie, brother john.
Don't you know? You need more.
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
Slogan/motto:
love others as u love yourself... and thank God you dont have to like them
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June 20th, 2012, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SaulToPaul
2 Tim 3:16-17 (KJV) is a lie, brother john.
Don't you know? You need more.
how does this psg contradict the notion that the Church is ALSO suffient? It doesn't... soemthing ELSE the Bible does not say... but it is true nonetheless... The Bible doesn't say a lot of things that are true. All truth cannot be placed into a small book... and the bible is nothing but small in comparison to all the truth there is in the world/universe...
in any case, this pssg does not say that the Bible is the ONLY
thing sufficient..
all it says is that it is suffient for teaching... for bringing one to a knowledge of salvation
The Bible is incomplete and was NEVER meant to be ALL a Christain has
if that were true, Jesus would have said to the Apostles: Write down my words and spread them to the whole world.
If he did say such a thing, it is NOT written in the Bible... which would disclaim YOUR doctrine right there... sola scriptura
He said to PREACH the Word... and baptize (Mt 28)
there was no written New T for at least 40 yrs after the Ascension
and even then there were no bibles as we know them today... the printing press not having been invented until 1440
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