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The motivation behind Mid Acts Dispensationlism -
July 2nd, 2012, 08:06 AM
A lot of posters who argue against the Mid Acts crowd, are unfortunatley a little naive: they don't realise why it is that certain posters hold to this silly Mid Acts Dispensationalist view.
The reason the Mid Acts crowd hold to what they hold to, is that great uncle Jed, or great great aunt Polly, told them they've got 'Jewish blood' in them. This makes them feel special and so they want to be exulted.
So one way to be exulted, is to promote a doctrine which tells everyone that the Jews will be living separately in eternity to the church (as idiotic as that sounds).
That way those with Jewish blood (whatever that looks like) will get a bit more attention than the average guy who only got salvation and a trip to heaven. (The Mid Acts mob think the Jews will be on earth for eternity, which kinda suits them, cause they're comfortable with carnal ideas and so a carnal environment will do just fine!). Let's hope for their sake that they don't bump into another snake in Eden.
So all the usual posters on this site (you know their names) who promote the Mid Acts view, think they're Jews (or part Jews). They've been keeping it a secret for some time now, but I thought it was time to let the cat out of the bag.
Now...if you don't believe me, just ask them. And if they beat around the bush and don't give you a straight answer, just keep on pressing them on it: eventually you'll get it out of them.
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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July 2nd, 2012, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Colossians
So all the usual posters on this site (you know their names) who promote the Mid Acts view, think they're Jews (or part Jews). They've been keeping it a secret for some time now, but I thought it was time to let the cat out of the bag.
That's silly.
I have no idea if I have any "Jewish blood", and if I did, it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans today.
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
So one way to be exulted, is to promote a doctrine which tells everyone that the Jews will be living separately in eternity to the church (as idiotic as that sounds).
Indeed, especially since we will all be "free" spirits without boundaries, floating where we wish to float.
That's silly.I have no idea if I have any "Jewish blood", and if I did, it wouldn't amount to a hill of beans today.
Oh so it wouldn't amount to a hil of beans, but somehow it amounts to an ernormous amount of slicing and dicing of scripture and a conclusion that God at least counts the beans so that they end up living separately in eternity.
Right. Just a tad contradictory Mr Saul.
If it doesn't amount to a hill of beans, then why the doctrine? Hmm?
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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July 2nd, 2012, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Colossians
but somehow it amounts to an ernormous amount of slicing and dicing of scripture and a conclusion that God at least counts the beans so that they end up living separately in eternity.
Is this gospel for everyone? 1 Cor 15:1-4 (KJV)
Jews and Gentiles?
I believe it is.
And, I believe there will be Jews and Gentiles in the Body of Christ living eternally in heaven together.
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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July 2nd, 2012, 08:27 AM
Just to clarify what this crazy wacko KJB only MADist believes:
I believe there are 3 eternal inheritances in the household of God:
1. There will be Jews and Gentiles who inherit the earth
2. There will be Jews and Gentiles who inherit the New Jerusalem
3. There will be Jews and Gentiles who inherit heaven
And, Christ is the one that filleth all in all.
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
Slogan/motto:
1 Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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July 2nd, 2012, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Colossians
A lot of posters who argue against the Mid Acts crowd, are unfortunatley a little naive: they don't realise why it is that certain posters hold to this silly Mid Acts Dispensationalist view.
The reason the Mid Acts crowd hold to what they hold to, is that great uncle Jed, or great great aunt Polly, told them they've got 'Jewish blood' in them. This makes them feel special and so they want to be exulted.
So one way to be exulted, is to promote a doctrine which tells everyone that the Jews will be living separately in eternity to the church (as idiotic as that sounds).
That way those with Jewish blood (whatever that looks like) will get a bit more attention than the average guy who only got salvation and a trip to heaven. (The Mid Acts mob think the Jews will be on earth for eternity, which kinda suits them, cause they're comfortable with carnal ideas and so a carnal environment will do just fine!). Let's hope for their sake that they don't bump into another snake in Eden.
So all the usual posters on this site (you know their names) who promote the Mid Acts view, think they're Jews (or part Jews). They've been keeping it a secret for some time now, but I thought it was time to let the cat out of the bag.
Now...if you don't believe me, just ask them. And if they beat around the bush and don't give you a straight answer, just keep on pressing them on it: eventually you'll get it out of them.
I think their motives are sincere, even though they are sincerely wrong.
This is just patently ridiculous. Not only because MAD specifically states that ethnicity [bloodline] has absolutely nothing to do with the separation of the groups, but also because MAD dictates that those who are in the current dispensation [the dispensation of the grace of God] are going to Heaven, so those who believe in MAD believe they are going to Heaven and will not be a part of those who inherit the Earth.
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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July 2nd, 2012, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by chickenman
I always thought that this MidActs Dispensationalist's motivation was a sincere desire to study, learn, and know the word of God.
Thank God we have Colossians around to help us understand our TRUE motivations.
Rabbi -stein!
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)
A lot of posters who argue against the Mid Acts crowd, are unfortunatley a little naive: they don't realise why it is that certain posters hold to this silly Mid Acts Dispensationalist view.
The reason the Mid Acts crowd hold to what they hold to, is that great uncle Jed, or great great aunt Polly, told them they've got 'Jewish blood' in them. This makes them feel special and so they want to be exulted.
So one way to be exulted, is to promote a doctrine which tells everyone that the Jews will be living separately in eternity to the church (as idiotic as that sounds).
That way those with Jewish blood (whatever that looks like) will get a bit more attention than the average guy who only got salvation and a trip to heaven. (The Mid Acts mob think the Jews will be on earth for eternity, which kinda suits them, cause they're comfortable with carnal ideas and so a carnal environment will do just fine!). Let's hope for their sake that they don't bump into another snake in Eden.
So all the usual posters on this site (you know their names) who promote the Mid Acts view, think they're Jews (or part Jews). They've been keeping it a secret for some time now, but I thought it was time to let the cat out of the bag.
Now...if you don't believe me, just ask them. And if they beat around the bush and don't give you a straight answer, just keep on pressing them on it: eventually you'll get it out of them.
I'm definitely posting this in part or in full outside of this thread.
I believe there are 3 eternal inheritances in the household of God:
1. There will be Jews and Gentiles who inherit the earth
2. There will be Jews and Gentiles who inherit the New Jerusalem
3. There will be Jews and Gentiles who inherit heaven
What you believe is unfortunately far from spiritual knowledge.
1. The phrase "inherit the earth" is simply Christ's referring to the new heavens and earth, which is a figure for our relationship with Him. It has nothing to do with dirt and rocks and trees.
2. The New Jerusalem is a figure for the church, and is specifically stated to be the Lamb's wife in Revelation. Thus Pauls says that the "Jerusalem that is above is the mother of us all".
3. Heaven is not a place, but a state of perpetual relationship without limitation, with God.
In summary, the believer is already seated in heavenly places, but sees it through the glass darkly. Some, unfortunately, see it through a welding mask.
The problem is not so much that you don't allow God to use figures of speech (only human beings are allowed to do that according to you), but that you simply refuse to grow up in the Lord.
Slogan/motto:
Ephesians 3:9: "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
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July 2nd, 2012, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Colossians
What you believe is unfortunately far from spiritual knowledge.
So you say.
I have scriptures for each of the three inheritances. I choose to believe God's words meant exactly what they said.
You are free to choose otherwise, and come up with whatever you want them to mean.
But, the point is, I do not believe "Jews and Gentiles are eternally separate". Wasn't that the point of this thread?
1. Land forever. Gen 17:8 (KJV)
2. City FROM heaven. Rev 21:2 (KJV)
3. Heavenly places. Eph 2:6-7(KJV)
Don't mix them, leavening the whole household of God. Luke 13:21 (KJV)