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Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! - July 8th, 2012, 12:02 AM

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
Edmund Burke

Homosexuality is a deviant behavior with a powerful agenda, that shakes it's fist in the face of anyone who dares to speak out against it and the harm that it's brought to society.

Be it the desecration of churches that speak the Word of God,



Or violently harrassing a handful of Christians sharing His word in a homosexual district in San Francisco:



This thread will show that by ignoring this promiscuous, disease ridden, deadly lifestyle and it's evil agenda, we as Christians (and those of other religions with moral values) and as a nation that was founded on Judeo-Christian principles, only empower it.

Throughout the history of Christianized western civilization, there have always been laws against sexual perversion, specifically homosexuality. Up until circa 1973, homosexuality was a felony in every State in the US. Due to intimidation by those involved in the homosexual movement, along with a secular humanist agenda that included the legalization of abortion and pornography, homosexuality was decriminalized in many States. Then in 2003, the Supreme Court of the United States made a ruling in Lawrence vs Texas that invalidated sodomy laws in thirteen other states, making homosexual activity legal in every U.S. state and territory. The court overturned its previous ruling on the same issue in the 1986 case Bowers v. Hardwick, where it upheld a challenged Georgia statute and did not find a constitutional protection of sexual perversity.

Our Founding Fathers "understood that God is the Lord of history who rules the lives
of nations by His divine providence, and that He is in authority over
our nation as well over all others. They knew that our nation’s civil
government and law must be based upon God’s laws and principles
of justice if we are to enjoy His blessings upon our land and people.
They comprehended that all men are sinners, and that man’s sinful
nature has particularly destructive consequences when it is allowed
to vent itself through the power of civil government."

In the past several decades we've turned civil government, the making, enforcement and adjudication of laws, over to Satan and those who serve him.

It's way past time that we Christians and those that stand for decency, put a stop to it.

While there will be "smokescreens" presented by those who oppose God and decency, I'll do my best to not allow homosexualists* to derail it by talking about other things that have absolutely nothing to do with the subject (13 year old girls marrying during Biblical times). Of course there will be accusations against the messenger, accusing me of being the same thing that the homosexualist defends, but that's to be expected (or in the words of blogger Domenico Bettinelli Jr.: "Of course, having criticized homosexuality in public...I will now be accused of being a secret, self-hating closeted homosexual and the rest of the brownshirt psychobabble. But then I suppose that would make my critics secret, self-hating closet conservatives...").

(* "A “homosexualist” is an individual of either gender, who may or may not be a sodomite or a lesbian, but who does what he or she can to advance homosexuality. The term satisfies an important need in nomenclature. Credit for devising it goes to Scott Lively, a California lawyer, whose book is Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party, which suggests that Hitler was a homosexual prostitute in Vienna, and that homosexuality and Nazism are almost the same thing.")

I geniunely encourage those who think that they can argue as to why homosexuality shouldn't be recriminalized, to come forward and try to make their case, as this thread is not intended to solely be educational, but open to different opinions.

Numerous links will be attached throughout the thread, backing what has been written by various sources. If there is factual error, then I encourage anyone to refute it with their source.

For those of you that have followed my posts regarding homosexuality in the past couple of years here at TOL, it's obvious that something that our Christian Founding Fathers deemed "...that horrible sin not to be named among Christians”, and "...the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature" MUST be recriminalized.

This thread will incorporate numerous aspects of homosexuality: the history of the modern day homosexual movement and it's "founders", the indoctrination and molestation of children,



it's strong ties to the abortion movement, the homosexual agenda and the invasion of invaluable institutions by the homosexual movement, as well as the destruction that homosexuality does to the individual partaking in the lifestyle, both physically and spiritually. Current leaders of the homosexual movement and various homosexual organizations that have connections with powerful people in high government offices and the mainstream media will also be discussed.

If anyone would like to respond to anything in the OP, then please do. If not, I'll proceed with the threat that the homosexual agenda poses to Christianity and our God-given freedoms (i.e. homo-fascism), as it is for the safety of our children and for our personal freedoms that we must defeat the homosexual indoctrination of America by recriminalizing homosexuality.



The Table of Contents for this thread is located on page 2, post #21, page 3, post #31, page 155, post #2314. As the thread progresses, it will be updated.

Update, 12/18-12: Page 261 currently has all 3+ pages of the table of contents together.

Update, 3-10-13: Table of Contents continued from page 261 to 374.





"Make no mistake: Children are the target of what I call the “sexual anarchy movement.” Whether it’s the movement’s pedophile wing that seeks to literally rape children, or its radical pro-abortion, homosexualist and feminist wings, which seek to rape the minds of children, the larger sexual anarchy movement has a shared goal: Attack, corrupt and destroy God’s design for human sexuality. Children are just collateral damage."

Matt Barber from his article "Sexual Anarchy"

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July 8th, 2012, 12:58 AM

It comes down to one question did God give us choice to reject him or accept him ?

Homosexuality is a rejection of God, its is sin and it is against Gods law and God is going to judge homosexuals.

However are we called to enforce Gods laws on non believers ?
Does Paul anywhere in his letters tell the church to go out out and campaign for the law in the Roman world to be changed regarding homosexuality?

He preaches against homosexuality inside the church, he sees at a symbol of the fall outside the church.

The world is worldly that should not surprise you. Rather than trying to make the world Godly shouldn't we be preaching the gospel?

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July 8th, 2012, 02:54 AM

I don't believe it will happen where homosexuality will be criminalized again. I believe Christians need to be ready for when the world starts criminalizing Christians and their beliefs.



   
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The world is worldly that should not surprise you. Rather than trying to make the world Godly shouldn't we be preaching the gospel?
^This. The world is worldly. It will be so until Christ returns.

I don't think homosexuality should be recriminalized any more than adulterers should be stoned.
That doesn't mean I support a radical agenda proposed by a percentage of them any more than I'd support a radical agenda by any other group. I'm well aware that the radicals are out there, and I'm also aware that the majority are living so quietly that no one would ever know. Where is the same outrage for those who live together, who have babies out of wedlock, who commit adultery? The world is sinking in sin of all kinds.

By the way, I dislike the word homosexualist. I dislike calling people fags. I dislike making allegations about the sexuality of others.

I don't believe in evangelizing via sledgehammer. I don't think that's what we were meant to do, called to do.
We're meant to be reflections of Christ. We're meant to hold something so beautiful, so precious, that others will want some of what we have.

That doesn't mean we don't have strength, courage, and conviction. But that's an individual strength given us by the grace of God to hold to his laws, and to bear witness to Him.
It's not so that we can go about bashing other people on the head with our banner of righteousness. That drives people away from God.



   
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The Christian church has a small number of dangerous Christian nut jobs in our ranks, this site seems to attract them and ACW talks like he is one of them and danger to society.

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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
Edmund Burke

Homosexuality is a deviant behavior with a powerful agenda, that shakes it's fist in the face of anyone who dares to speak out against it and the harm that it's brought to society.

Be it the desecration of churches that speak the Word of God,



Or violently harrassing a handful of Christians sharing His word in a homosexual district in San Francisco:


These perverts are not going to be able to make Jesus disappear with their whistles when He splits open the skies upon His return. I would love to see them try!



   
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"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
Edmund Burke

Homosexuality is a deviant behavior with a powerful agenda, that shakes it's fist in the face of anyone who dares to speak out against it and the harm that it's brought to society.

Be it the desecration of churches that speak the Word of God,



Or violently harrassing a handful of Christians sharing His word in a homosexual district in San Francisco:



This thread will show that by ignoring this promiscuous, disease ridden, deadly lifestyle and it's evil agenda, we as Christians (and those of other religions with moral values) and as a nation that was founded on Christian principles, only empower it.

Throughout the history of Christianized western civilization, there have always been laws against sexual perversion, specifically homosexuality. Up until circa 1973, homosexuality was a felony in every State in the US. Due to intimidation by those involved in the homosexual movement, along with a secular humanist agenda that included the legalization of abortion and pornography, homosexuality was decriminalized in many States. Then in 2003, the Supreme Court of the United States made a ruling in Lawrence vs Texas that invalidated sodomy laws in thirteen other states, making homosexual activity legal in every U.S. state and territory. The court overturned its previous ruling on the same issue in the 1986 case Bowers v. Hardwick, where it upheld a challenged Georgia statute and did not find a constitutional protection of sexual perversity.

Our Founding Fathers "understood that God is the Lord of history who rules the lives
of nations by His divine providence, and that He is in authority over
our nation as well over all others. They knew that our nation’s civil
government and law must be based upon God’s laws and principles
of justice if we are to enjoy His blessings upon our land and people.
They comprehended that all men are sinners, and that man’s sinful
nature has particularly destructive consequences when it is allowed
to vent itself through the power of civil government."

In the past several decades we've turned civil government, the making, enforcement and adjudication of laws, over to Satan and those who serve him.

It's way past time that we Christians and those that stand for decency, put a stop to it.

While there will be "smokescreens" presented by those who oppose God and decency, I'll do my best to not allow homosexualists* to derail it by talking about other things that have absolutely nothing to do with the subject (13 year old girls marrying during Biblical times). Of course there will be accusations against the messenger, accusing me of being the same thing that the homosexualist defends, but that's to be expected (or in the words of blogger Domenico Bettinelli Jr.: "Of course, having criticized homosexuality in public...I will now be accused of being a secret, self-hating closeted homosexual and the rest of the brownshirt psychobabble. But then I suppose that would make my critics secret, self-hating closet conservatives...").

(* "A “homosexualist” is an individual of either gender, who may or may not be a sodomite or a lesbian, but who does what he or she can to advance homosexuality. The term satisfies an important need in nomenclature. Credit for devising it goes to Scott Lively, a California lawyer, whose book is Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party, which suggests that Hitler was a homosexual prostitute in Vienna, and that homosexuality and Nazism are almost the same thing.")

I geniunely encourage those who think that they can argue as to why homosexuality shouldn't be recriminalized, to come forward and try to make their case, as this thread is not intended to solely be educational, but open to different opinions.

Numerous links will be attached throughout the thread, backing what has been written by various sources. If there is factual error, then I encourage anyone to refute it with their source.

For those of you that have followed my posts regarding homosexuality in the past couple of years here at TOL, it's obvious that something that our Christian Founding Fathers deemed "...that horrible sin not to be named among Christians”, and "...the very mention of which is a disgrace to human nature" MUST be recriminalized.

This thread will incorporate numerous aspects of homosexuality: the history of the modern day homosexual movement and it's "founders", the indoctrination and molestation of children,



it's strong ties to the abortion movement, the homosexual agenda and the invasion of invaluable institutions by the homosexual movement, as well as the destruction that homosexuality does to the individual partaking in the lifestyle, both physically and spiritually. Current leaders of the homosexual movement and various homosexual organizations that have connections with powerful people in high government offices and the mainstream media will also be discussed.

If anyone would like to respond to anything in the OP, then please do. If not, I'll proceed with the threat that the homosexual agenda poses to Christianity and our God-given freedoms (i.e. homo-fascism), as it is for the safety of our children and for our personal freedoms that we must defeat the homosexual indoctrination of America by recriminalizing homosexuality.

Homosexuality is dead wrong.

It is wickedness and perverse.

People need to know that so that they have the opportunity to reject it.

Thanks for speaking out

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It comes down to one question did God give us choice to reject him or accept him ?

Homosexuality is a rejection of God, its is sin and it is against Gods law and God is going to judge homosexuals.

However are we called to enforce Gods laws on non believers ?
Does Paul anywhere in his letters tell the church to go out out and campaign for the law in the Roman world to be changed regarding homosexuality?

He preaches against homosexuality inside the church, he sees at a symbol of the fall outside the church.

The world is worldly that should not surprise you. Rather than trying to make the world Godly shouldn't we be preaching the gospel?

Gaybashing is not one the ministries mentioned in the New testament
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^This. The world is worldly. It will be so until Christ returns.

I don't think homosexuality should be recriminalized any more than adulterers should be stoned.
That doesn't mean I support a radical agenda proposed by a percentage of them any more than I'd support a radical agenda by any other group. I'm well aware that the radicals are out there, and I'm also aware that the majority are living so quietly that no one would ever know. Where is the same outrage for those who live together, who have babies out of wedlock, who commit adultery? The world is sinking in sin of all kinds.

By the way, I dislike the word homosexualist. I dislike calling people fags. I dislike making allegations about the sexuality of others.

I don't believe in evangelizing via sledgehammer. I don't think that's what we were meant to do, called to do.
We're meant to be reflections of Christ. We're meant to hold something so beautiful, so precious, that others will want some of what we have.

That doesn't mean we don't have strength, courage, and conviction. But that's an individual strength given us by the grace of God to hold to his laws, and to bear witness to Him.
It's not so that we can go about bashing other people on the head with our banner of righteousness. That drives people away from God.
Kudos to both of you for putting the "Christ-like behavior" back into Christianity.





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It comes down to one question did God give us choice to reject him or accept him ?

Homosexuality is a rejection of God, its is sin and it is against Gods law and God is going to judge homosexuals.

However are we called to enforce Gods laws on non believers ?
Does Paul anywhere in his letters tell the church to go out out and campaign for the law in the Roman world to be changed regarding homosexuality?

He preaches against homosexuality inside the church, he sees at a symbol of the fall outside the church.

The world is worldly that should not surprise you. Rather than trying to make the world Godly shouldn't we be preaching the gospel?

Gaybashing is not one the ministries mentioned in the New testament
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^This. The world is worldly. It will be so until Christ returns.

I don't think homosexuality should be recriminalized any more than adulterers should be stoned.
That doesn't mean I support a radical agenda proposed by a percentage of them any more than I'd support a radical agenda by any other group. I'm well aware that the radicals are out there, and I'm also aware that the majority are living so quietly that no one would ever know. Where is the same outrage for those who live together, who have babies out of wedlock, who commit adultery? The world is sinking in sin of all kinds.

By the way, I dislike the word homosexualist. I dislike calling people fags. I dislike making allegations about the sexuality of others.

I don't believe in evangelizing via sledgehammer. I don't think that's what we were meant to do, called to do.
We're meant to be reflections of Christ. We're meant to hold something so beautiful, so precious, that others will want some of what we have.

That doesn't mean we don't have strength, courage, and conviction. But that's an individual strength given us by the grace of God to hold to his laws, and to bear witness to Him.
It's not so that we can go about bashing other people on the head with our banner of righteousness. That drives people away from God.
We may not agree on everything but this is another great post.



   
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However are we called to enforce Gods laws on non believers ?
Does Paul anywhere in his letters tell the church to go out out and campaign for the law in the Roman world to be changed regarding homosexuality?
Do you feel the same way about abortion? Should we not call for the outlawing of that?





   
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Do you feel the same way about abortion? Should we not call for the outlawing of that?
Apples and oranges, LH.

I am nonreligious and vehemently against abortion because it ALWAYS (without exception) takes the life of an innocent child. The intent is always for the purpose of convenience and includes a reckless disregard for the life of the unborn baby. Also, the unborn are unable to consent.

Homosexuality, OTOH, does not equal death by virtue of committing the act.

It involves two individuals who are consenting to having sex and accepting that if one of them have a disease, they very well may be infected. Just like heterosexuals.

Outside of religion, there has never been any reasonable arguments made that couldn't apply to other activities such as smoking, drinking, overeating, etc.

Life IS a risk and unless someone is harming another person without their consent, in a free society, individuals have the right to put their own health at risk.





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July 8th, 2012, 12:43 PM

No I don't and you should get the difference without me having to say it.

The sin of homosexuality hurts the participants mainly.

The sin of abortion hurts all parties involved but mainly the child.

I think laws should be minimal to protect individuals from the effects of others peoples sin, abortion clearly falls into this category.

Did you really need to ask that?

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Apples and oranges, LH.
As you're not a Christian the question doesn't apply to you. I asked him for a very specific reason.

I already know your response to where I am going with this.

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No I don't and you should get the difference without me having to say it.

The sin of homosexuality hurts the participants mainly.

The sin of abortion hurts all parties involved but mainly the child.

I think laws should be minimal to protect individuals from the effects of others peoples sin, abortion clearly falls into this category.

Did you really need to ask that?
Yes, because I want to know what makes the two different. And you claim that homosexuality only affects the participants, but this thread, and many others, have shown that not to be the case.

Why do you choose to be stubborn rather than honestly look into these things to make an informed decision.





   
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