[OMEGA]

Lu 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Lu 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough,

and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him,

the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance;

seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh,

and put him to an open shame.

But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected,

and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
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If you decide to call it Quits , then you are going to Join the Rest of them at Armageddon.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Originally Posted by OMEGA

Lu 5:32 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Lu 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough,

and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him,

the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance;

seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh,

and put him to an open shame.

But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected,

and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
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If you decide to call it Quits , then you are going to Join the Rest of them at Armageddon.

No Mormon doctrine in the Bible.

[OMEGA]

Coyote,

These verses are in YOUR Bible .

Why do you mention Mormon?

Tell me More man ?

[Jordan Fontenot]

Hebrews 10:26
Galatians 5:19-21
2 Peter 2:21
Luke 8:13

Shall I go on?

[Bright Raven]

John 10:28-29
Romans 8:31-39

[Jordan Fontenot]

1 John 3:7
John 16:1
Galatians 5:4
Hebrews 6:6
2 Peter 3:17

[OMEGA]

You have to keep following Jesus to get the benefits.

Any who fall away are denied the benefits.
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John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
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---Paul says thatWe have to be following Jesus to do this for us.

Rom 8:31 ¶ What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

[Bright Raven]

Paul says;

Galatians 2:20

New King James Version (NKJV)

20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

Once you have been crucified in Christ, how do you become uncrucified?

[OMEGA]

Here , I will give you guys a bit of a hand...........

Ro 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Ac 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
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[Jordan Fontenot]

Originally Posted by Bright Raven

Paul says;

Galatians 2:20

New King James Version (NKJV)

20 I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

Once you have been crucified in Christ, how do you become uncrucified?

What point is it that you are trying to argue here? That we cannot sin and therefore cannot fall away because we live in Christ?

[Bright Raven]

Originally Posted by Jordan Fontenot

What point is it that you are trying to argue here? That we cannot sin and therefore cannot fall away because we live in Christ?

That you can't fall away. Can you or will you?

[Jordan Fontenot]

Originally Posted by Bright Raven

That you can't fall away. Can you or will you?

I see your point now, and I admit it is a valid one, but it it has some inferences that are not entirely on point. Do you believe that salvation is forced upon us, or something we choose?

[OMEGA]

How do you become UNcrucified ?

Good Question , probably referring to this verse in Heb6:4-6.


Heb 6:4 For it is IMPOSSIBLE for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance;

seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh,

and put him to an open shame.
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It is probably referring for acceptance of Christ who died for us.

These people are probably too weak and also take God's Plan of Salvation lightly.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

1Ti 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them:
for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
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You have to Continue in the Faith and bear fruit of the HS as you go through life.
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[OMEGA]

Bright Raven said,

That you can't fall away. Can you or will you?
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There are Christians that I know of who have just walked away

because they became weary of well doing and thought that they

were not Worthy of the Kingdom and there are Christians who just

give up the whole Christian thing because they do not Feel Zealous

about the Goal of Eternal Life and a position in God's Kingdom even

though Jesus says STRIVE to Enter in.
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So, you can easily Fall Away as a Christian.

But You just have to keep on keeping on to make it...

[Bright Raven]

Originally Posted by Jordan Fontenot

I see your point now, and I admit it is a valid one, but it it has some inferences that are not entirely on point. Do you believe that salvation is forced upon us, or something we choose?

We choose to accept or reject. Once you choose to accept, you are in Christ. What does John say about those who fall away?

1 John 2

18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.