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July 31st, 2012, 09:26 PM

Since zoo wont, I will:

Javier Bardem: still more of a foreign film sensation, Bardem is a marvelous actor who was late in gaining the sort of recognition here that he has long enjoyed abroad.

The 3: No Country for Old Men, Before Night Falls, Love in the Time of Cholera, The Sea Inside...good in lesser films, like Vicky Christina Barcelona and Monday's in the Sun.



   
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July 31st, 2012, 09:29 PM

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Burt Lancaster & Kirk Douglas in Seven Day of May and Kirk Douglas was great in "The Bad and the Beautiful" With Lanna Turner and Dick Powell.

Burt Lancaster was great as the displaced captain by Clark Gable in a war picture about submarines taking bow shots at Destroyers.

Gable in "Command Decision" was a great movie, the Gregory Peck take-off was not as for for dialogue, a lost art today. Gable, we know was big with "Gone With the Wind" opposite Vivian Leigh. He also played a knave turned plantation owner, in a great movie. Here he was passionate, after having lived a ruthless life. Gable in "Manhattan Melody" I believe, was a good light comedy, one I enjoyed.

Peck was much what we expect from Cooper in " The Big Country" also memorable his role as the notorious Captain Ahab, although the film was a bit two dimensional and flat. Peck is also remembered for his role in "The Gunfighter".

Burt Lancaster also played an evil gunman, with flair along with Gary Cooper, in the "Garden of Eden", in the end, although antagonistic partners, Cooper had to shoot him down.

One of my favorite Burt Lancaster films was a noir, called "The Killers".

All, these were great, I know Gable was under strain when he made "The Misfits" with Marlyn Monroe.
Yeah. I plan to include Peck at some point to be sure. Heston too, who has a good role in Country.

Gable drives me crazy. He runs against the grain. It Happened One Night is huge but if it isn't for Gone With the Wind I'd say he was a star whose presence overcame good but rarely great material. But Wind is like Citizen Kane, so big the one would do. Like Lawrence of Arabia was for Peter O'Toole.

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July 31st, 2012, 09:47 PM

Maybe is was "Manhattan Melodrama"?
Anyway
Clark Gable
Burt Lancaster
Kirk Douglas

one good group of male actors
Henry Fonda, in :twelve Angry Men" was great
Spencer Tracy, in the take-off to Joseph Conrad. "The Tall Grass" something like that, it was good, as "Edward my Son" were we never see Edward and "Bad Day at Black Rock" I may be confused, as this was when Tracy went to award a murdered Asian war hero, with a Kirk Douglas film , where Kirk play the serif and husband of a murdered wife, to bring the killer to justice, while the killer turns out to be the son of the big man of the town, played by Anthony Quinn, who is shot down in the end.
Humphrey Bogart, in many a film, but he shines in "Key Largo" , ":High Serra", The Maltese Falcon", "The Treasure of the Serra Madras", and "The Petrified Forest", and best of all "Casablanca"
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July 31st, 2012, 09:48 PM

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Javier Bardem: still more of a foreign film sensation, Bardem is a marvelous actor who was late in gaining the sort of recognition here that he has long enjoyed abroad.

The 3: No Country for Old Men, Before Night Falls, Love in the Time of Cholera, The Sea Inside...good in lesser films, like Vicky Christina Barcelona and Monday's in the Sun.
You missed Biutiful. Best Actor Cannes (won), Best Actor Oscar (nominated), Best Actor British Academy Awards (nominated), Best Actor Goya Awards (won)

But you'd said he couldn't make the 3.





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You missed Biutiful. Best Actor Cannes (won), Best Actor Oscar (nominated), Best Actor British Academy Awards (nominated), Best Actor Goya Awards (won)
I completely forgot Bitiful.

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But you'd said he couldn't make the 3.
I think he's more actor than movie star, but I'm not above reversing or shrugging and saying I got a thing wrong, like I did here. That's part of what I love about the game.




   
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July 31st, 2012, 09:58 PM

I think there are a lot of actors that are actually superb actors, but they just aren't box office draws.

Willem Dafoe is not really a box office draw, but man, the guy can act!






   
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I think there are a lot of actors that are actually superb actors, but they just aren't box office draws.

Willem Dafoe is not really a box office draw, but man, the guy can act!
Great character actor. Loved him in Platoon, Mississippi Burning, Shadow of the Vampire...any number of things recent and not so. He and Malkovich are almost peerless in support.



   
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Can you see a comparison of Heston to Eastwood?
Hard for me, because they're contemporaries. Heston is more the traditional John Wayne man's man. Eastwood is something quirkier and darker. Love both of them though.



   
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July 31st, 2012, 10:08 PM

What about comparing Bogey and Nicholson?



   
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July 31st, 2012, 10:13 PM

Well, if we're in Hollywood...

I'm not all that surprised, but no one has mentioned George Clooney. I consider him as the modern equivalent of the classic Marquee and Hollywood star. He's gone through the ranks of heartthrob soap star, to serious TV, to Hollywood, and his list of films runs the gamut ... Cheesy, comedy, quiet, indie, blockbuster... he can carry a film. There's also something very timeless about him, as well very much in the spirit of Hollywood and film.

There are many, but the three some are:

O Brother Where Art Thou?, Out of Sight, The Perfect Storm, Syriana, Good Night and Good Luck, Oceans, Michael Clayton, Up In The Air...





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I think there are a lot of actors that are actually superb actors, but they just aren't box office draws.

Willem Dafoe is not really a box office draw, but man, the guy can act!
Yes. Harvey Keitel as well.





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Well, if we're in Hollywood...

I'm not all that surprised, but no one has mentioned George Clooney. I consider him as the modern equivalent of the classic Marquee and Hollywood star. He's gone through the ranks of heartthrob soap star, to serious TV, to Hollywood, and his list of films runs the gamut ... Cheesy, comedy, quiet, indie, blockbuster... he can carry a film. There's also something very timeless about him, as well very much in the spirit of Hollywood and film.

There are many, but the three some are:

O Brother Where Art Thou?, Out of Sight, The Perfect Storm, Syriana, Good Night and Good Luck, Oceans, Michael Clayton, Up In The Air...
Huge Michael Clayton fan and I think between his comedic turns and ability to play drama he reminds me a lot of Cary Grant...but with a twist of Spencer Tracy thrown in.

How about adding his buddy Pit into the mix?

Brad Pitt: started off like Bardem as a hearthrob in Thelma in Louise, but found his marker working with Redford (whom he still emulates).

The 3: Inglorius Basterds, The Curious Case of Benjamin Buttons, A River Runs Through It...good turns in Troy, Legends of the Fall, Oceans and Babel.

Who? Redford.



   
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Yeah. I plan to include Peck at some point to be sure. Heston too, who has a good role in Country.

Gable drives me crazy. He runs against the grain. It Happened One Night is huge but if it isn't for Gone With the Wind I'd say he was a star whose presence overcame good but rarely great material. But Wind is like Citizen Kane, so big the one would do. Like Lawrence of Arabia was for Peter O'Toole.

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I have many films with Peck and f0or Gable, he is treally before your time, maybe before mine too? I did like him in many great films.

Yes, O Wells, great in "Citizen Kane" and his best films, "The Magnificence of the Ambersons" was very well. I did not like the one with Rita Hayworth, but the one he plays the cold bloodied excapted Nazi, Opposite Edward G. Robinson was super and we do not get that suspense without all special effects today. We seem to have lost the better writing in films?

E.G. R was also great, as we see in "The Cincinnati Kid" opposite Steve McQueen and the one where he is a firefighter, who is falsely accused, sent to prison, and not to forget "Doctor Cliterhouse" I think is the name, he was very good and stumped Rocky, played by a young Humphrey Bogart. I did nit like the on many remember about his as the gangster in "Little Ceaser"





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That was Jean Simmons, who was in Spartacus and Elmer Gantry





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