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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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Better For The Economy: Obama or Romney? -
August 14th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Who, as president, would net the most economic success for the US economy and why do you think so?
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
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As long as people demand more government, they will get it. Government reflects the people.
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August 14th, 2012, 11:25 AM
Since these are my only two choices, I say Romney but only because there is not a NEITHER option.
Governments coerce others with a two-edged sword: giving the state the power to do things you like necessarily requires giving the state the power to do things you don't like, and giving the state the power to restrict behavior of which you don't approve gives them the power to restrict behavior of which you do approve. The right way to change hearts and minds is not coercion. It is persuasion
Governments coerce others with a two-edged sword: giving the state the power to do things you like necessarily requires giving the state the power to do things you don't like, and giving the state the power to restrict behavior of which you don't approve gives them the power to restrict behavior of which you do approve. The right way to change hearts and minds is not coercion. It is persuasion
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For as much as it depends on you, live at peace with others.
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August 14th, 2012, 11:37 AM
It's all about perception. As long as Obama continues to talk about regulating and taxing more and sharing the success, businesses will continue to sit on the fence and wait for him to leave office.
Romney will be better at getting them off the fence and moving.
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You , too, can have an exciting and glamorous engineering career like me!
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August 14th, 2012, 03:35 PM
How exactly do presidents affect the economy?
Your problem is not technology. The problem is YOU. You lack the will to change...You treat this planet as you treat each other. - Klaatu
What are you talking about? There is no such thing as the "Mafia"......it doesn't exist. Just a bunch of lies told to defame honest hardworking Italians like myself. - TomO
I will do you, let's see, goofy, wacky, and to the left side of the bell curve. -Ktoyou
I'm white. I'm not black. I can't convert to being black. It doesn't matter how much I want to become black. I could listen to rap and date fat white women all day; for all that, I'll still remain white.- Traditio
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Never be haughty to the humble; never be humble to the haughty.
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August 14th, 2012, 05:40 PM
I'm see that Romney is arguing that we just need to do more of what Bush did.
Handing out lavish tax cuts for the rich and taxing the middle class more, was the cause of the mess we're in now. Doing more of that doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
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As long as people demand more government, they will get it. Government reflects the people.
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August 14th, 2012, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
I'm see that Romney is arguing that we just need to do more of what Bush did.
Handing out lavish tax cuts for the rich and taxing the middle class more, was the cause of the mess we're in now. Doing more of that doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
I am sick to death of that ignorant statement, "Handing out lavish tax cuts for the rich and taxing the middle class more."
That Barbarian did not cause the mess we are in now. Military spending (not defense spending; two different animals), foreign aid, social security, medicaid, medicare, depreciating the currency we seem to be so fond of now, list goes on and on and on; that's what is causing this whole mess.
Governments coerce others with a two-edged sword: giving the state the power to do things you like necessarily requires giving the state the power to do things you don't like, and giving the state the power to restrict behavior of which you don't approve gives them the power to restrict behavior of which you do approve. The right way to change hearts and minds is not coercion. It is persuasion
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As long as people demand more government, they will get it. Government reflects the people.
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August 14th, 2012, 05:57 PM
Whether it is Obama or Romney, to cover everything the government does, we need to raise taxes an additional 81%. And that is 2008 numbers.
Governments coerce others with a two-edged sword: giving the state the power to do things you like necessarily requires giving the state the power to do things you don't like, and giving the state the power to restrict behavior of which you don't approve gives them the power to restrict behavior of which you do approve. The right way to change hearts and minds is not coercion. It is persuasion
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Hands that help are holier than lips that pray.
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August 14th, 2012, 06:07 PM
I honestly have no idea.
I believe that the Universe is one being, all its parts are different expressions of the same energy,
and they are all in communication with each other, therefore parts of one organic whole.
This whole is in all its parts so beautiful, and is felt by me to be so intensely in earnest, that I am compelled to love it and to think of it as divine
- Robinson Jeffers
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Never be haughty to the humble; never be humble to the haughty.
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August 14th, 2012, 06:30 PM
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I am sick to death of that ignorant statement, "Handing out lavish tax cuts for the rich and taxing the middle class more."
That Barbarian did not cause the mess we are in now.
But it did. If the tax structure had not been changed from the 90s, there wouldn't be massive deficits. That's not my opinion. CBO and the WH budget figures show that.
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Military spending (not defense spending; two different animals), foreign aid, social security, medicaid, medicare, depreciating the currency we seem to be so fond of now, list goes on and on and on; that's what is causing this whole mess.
Two things cause deficits. Spending and reduced income. We raised expenditures and cut taxes. And now, everyone is shocked at the result.
Governments coerce others with a two-edged sword: giving the state the power to do things you like necessarily requires giving the state the power to do things you don't like, and giving the state the power to restrict behavior of which you don't approve gives them the power to restrict behavior of which you do approve. The right way to change hearts and minds is not coercion. It is persuasion
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As long as people demand more government, they will get it. Government reflects the people.
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August 14th, 2012, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
But it did.
It didn't.
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
If the tax structure had not been changed from the 90s, there wouldn't be massive deficits.
What? There was massive deficits then. There has been massive deficits since the 20's. Running deficits are bad, whether we as individuals do it or a government. Now we can NOT get out of it. It is impossible. This nation will default. I really hope you are ready.
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
That's not my opinion. CBO and the WH budget figures show that.
I am well aware of what they said. And they are wrong for the simple fact they are budgeters, not economists. What they don't tell you is it is the system. The system is geared to choke you out. And it is doing just that. Ask anyone in Washington except Ron Paul. Deficits are good they say, just not the amount we currently have. So now your mad at the rich for choking you out. And your proposal, let's steal from them. The have's and the have nots.
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
Two things cause deficits. Spending and reduced income. We raised expenditures and cut taxes. And now, everyone is shocked at the result.
Right! You might want to throw in Government regulation and intervention in that mix.
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Originally Posted by The Barbarian
Sure.
Glad you understand.
Governments coerce others with a two-edged sword: giving the state the power to do things you like necessarily requires giving the state the power to do things you don't like, and giving the state the power to restrict behavior of which you don't approve gives them the power to restrict behavior of which you do approve. The right way to change hearts and minds is not coercion. It is persuasion
- TomO
-Ktoyou
More like tolerate perversity.
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