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September 30th, 2012, 10:08 PM
No. Absolutely not.
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."
Not in my bible. It's still right there in front part...
"How foolish can you be? After starting your Christian lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort?" Gal. 3:3
Because as Peter stated this was a yoke (these laws) that the Jewish People failed to follow, and Gentile Christians shouldn't be given this yoke (Acts 15:10-11). For Peter was told that, what God has cleansed call thou not common (Acts 10:13-15).
For Jesus tells us: If the Son therefore, shall make you free, ye shall free indeed. John 8:36.
For we have the Law of Liberty in Christ Jesus (James 1:25). This laws works by love and mercy (James 2:8-12)
Jesus came to give us, His yoke, for it is easy and a light burden, our Saviour also give us rest (Matthew 11:28-30). So that just as God rested on the Seventh Day of Creation (Genesis 2:3), we as Believers rest in Christ Jesus are True Sabbath (Hebrews 4:9-10).
Obviously this is a question intended for Christians, what are your thoughts on this. Did the New Testament Abolish the Old Testament?
Give a brief explanation for your view, thanks in advance.
Romans 2:12 KJV
For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
The Old Testament is as good as in force against all those who are not Christians, not just Israel.
The New Testament/Covenant doesn't abolish the Old --you must die, and then the curse of the Old Galatians 3:10 KJV cannot touch you Romans 6:7 KJV Romans 7:1 KJV. The New Testament abolishes you Colossians 3:3 KJV.
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October 1st, 2012, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Daedalean's_Sun
Give a brief explanation for your view, thanks in advance.
No. It should be pretty clear that it didn't when the Old Testament is still part of the Christian Bible. But much of what is contained in the Old Testament represents God's will at that time but is no longer his will after Jesus' incarnation and passion. What was actually morally right and wrong in the old testament still is. Murder, for example, has always been immoral, starting with Cain and Abel, it was immoral before Moses was given the ten commandments and still always will be now that we are no longer under the law of Moses. That we're no longer under that law doesn't mean it's not wrong anymore, but how sinners should seek atonement for their sins is much different now. (As opposed to eating shrimp, for a counter-example, which was not inherently immoral, and had been permissible before the law of Moses.)
"So as not to exchange one evil for another, this poor land must be saved from the scourge of friend and foe alike." - Friedrich Schiller
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October 1st, 2012, 12:22 PM
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Because as Peter stated this was a yoke (these laws) that the Jewish People failed to follow, and Gentile Christians shouldn't be given this yoke (Acts 15:10-11).
The 'yoke' is the interpretation of the Elders that Messiah constantly battle the Pharisees on in the Gospels. It is not the Law itself. This makes no sense of the context of the verse.
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For Peter was told that, what God has cleansed call thou not common (Acts 10:13-15).
If you finish the story, Peter clarifies the point of the vision. It was not that he could eat anything he wanted. It was how he is to relate to Gentiles; there is nothing that separates mankind from itself-all can be a part of Israel.
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For Jesus tells us: If the Son therefore, shall make you free, ye shall free indeed. John 8:36.
For we have the Law of Liberty in Christ Jesus (James 1:25). This laws works by love and mercy (James 2:8-12)
The Son makes us free from our sins, not the Torah. The perfect Law is the Torah...there is nothing in the letter of James that contradicts that. The Torah that God gave also works by love and mercy...that was the point of it.
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Jesus came to give us, His yoke, for it is easy and a light burden, our Saviour also give us rest (Matthew 11:28-30). So that just as God rested on the Seventh Day of Creation (Genesis 2:3), we as Believers rest in Christ Jesus are True Sabbath (Hebrews 4:9-10).
The 'yoke' in the literature of Messiah's period was an expression that denoted that rabbi's interpretation of the Law; his point was that His interpretation was not as cumbersome as the rest of the Pharisees. Resting in Messiah doesn't mean doing nothing.
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