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Jewish Congregation celebrates violating Torah at Yom Kippur Service - October 3rd, 2012, 11:45 AM

Jewish congregation split during days of reconciliation
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During a worship service Tuesday on the eve of Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement, Rabbi Michael Siegel of Anshe Emet Synagogue [...]

[...] the service featured a fictional father and son dialogue about Israel, including a piece celebrating Israel's openness to the gay and lesbian community.
Instead of repenting for violating the Torah during Yom Kippur, they celebrated violating the Torah.

What were they thinking?





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October 3rd, 2012, 12:31 PM

Maybe there Christians.

1 Corinthians 5:1-2 KJV
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.


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October 4th, 2012, 05:45 AM

That is a conservative synagogue which should clear things up.

I once heard an amusing anecdote about the differences between Orthodox, Reform and Conservative Judaism.

At an Orthodox wedding the mother of the bride is pregnant. At a Reform wedding the bride is pregnant. At a Conservative wedding the Rabbi is pregnant.



   
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October 4th, 2012, 01:28 PM

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What were they thinking?
If you really want to know, you can go to this page and find the Responsa put out by the Conservative movement. It will give you the discussions they have had and it will also show you how some of them voted on the issue.

The Rabbinical Assembly






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If you really want to know, you can go to this page and find the Responsa put out by the Conservative movement. It will give you the discussions they have had and it will also show you how some of them voted on the issue.

The Rabbinical Assembly
Your link is broken, so I went to this link to see what you were talking about.

I cannot find any discussions on the site that are about celebrating violating the Torah on Yom Kippur instead of repenting for violating it.

Did I miss something?





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October 4th, 2012, 02:36 PM

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Your link is broken, so I went to this link to see what you were talking about.

I cannot find any discussions on the site that are about celebrating violating the Torah on Yom Kippur instead of repenting for violating it.

Did I miss something?
Did you see the word "conservative" and completely misunderstand what the word meant in this case?





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Did you see the word "conservative" and completely misunderstand what the word meant in this case?
I think you missed my point.

What they did is about the same as gathering for a "Yom Kippur" hot ham and cheese dinner.





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Your link is broken, so I went to this link to see what you were talking about.

I cannot find any discussions on the site that are about celebrating violating the Torah on Yom Kippur instead of repenting for violating it.

Did I miss something?
The answer to your question is there if you are willing to look at it. If you don't want to put in that effort than you really aren't that interested. I'm not going to sit here and sum up years of debate for you. Also, I haven't any idea what story was actually read during their services so how I can I really give you an answer? Gays and lesbians are welcome in the Conservative community. There isn't anything wrong with their being welcome. Aside from that...I have no idea what the story could have been about since the article doesn't say. Suffice it to say the Conservative movement doesn't treat homosexual couples like they are a ham and cheese sandwich.






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Suffice it to say the Conservative movement doesn't treat homosexual couples like they are a ham and cheese sandwich.
True, many Conservative Jews will not eat ham because it is prohibited in the Torah and will not mix meat and milk for the same reason.





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True, many Conservative Jews will not eat ham because it is prohibited in the Torah and will not mix meat and milk for the same reason.
I am one of those people. But when it comes to homosexuality there are different ways to look at the situation.






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October 6th, 2012, 06:13 AM

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I am one of those people. But when it comes to homosexuality there are different ways to look at the situation.
Different ways...?

The religious community in general ought welcome Gays and everyone else. This is different than stating an approval for behavior that is Gay, isn't it?



   
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