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Does the idea of the One God refer to Nature or Person? - November 13th, 2012, 10:28 PM

Is the God that you worship a person or an essence?



   
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November 14th, 2012, 12:04 AM

God is a personal God.

"God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth" (John 4:24).

"Christian theologian Alister McGrath writes that there are good reasons to suggest that a "personal god" is integral to the Christian outlook, but that one has to understand it is an analogy. 'To say that God is like a person is to affirm the divine ability and willingness to relate to others. This does not imply that God is human, or located at a specific point in the universe.' Muslims believe that the purpose of existence is to worship God. He is viewed as a personal God and there are no intermediaries, such as clergy, to contact God. A reciprocal nature is mentioned in the hadith qudsi, 'I am as My servant thinks (expects) I am" (wikipedia).



   
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November 14th, 2012, 01:35 AM

Both/and, not either/or.

God is personal and He is spirit. Essence/substance/nature/metaphysics refers to the 'what' of God, while 'person/personal distinction' refers to the 'who' of God.

God is triune, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Within the one essence/nature/substance/being of God are 3 personal distinctions (not 3 finite persons, not 3 gods) who are co-equal, co-eternal, co-essential.





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November 14th, 2012, 08:22 AM

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Is the God that you worship a person or an essence?
Persons.





"If you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ!" Gal. 5:4

"How foolish can you be? After starting your Christian lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort?"
Gal. 3:3


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November 14th, 2012, 02:11 PM

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God is a personal God.
So you only pray to one person?



   
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November 14th, 2012, 02:12 PM

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Both/and, not either/or.

God is personal and He is spirit. Essence/substance/nature/metaphysics refers to the 'what' of God, while 'person/personal distinction' refers to the 'who' of God.

God is triune, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Within the one essence/nature/substance/being of God are 3 personal distinctions (not 3 finite persons, not 3 gods) who are co-equal, co-eternal, co-essential.
So do you pray to three persons?



   
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November 14th, 2012, 02:15 PM

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Persons.
So you pray to multiple persons? How is this not paganism?



   
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November 14th, 2012, 02:37 PM

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How is this not paganism?
Because God is One.





"If you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ!" Gal. 5:4

"How foolish can you be? After starting your Christian lives in the Spirit, why are you now trying to become perfect by your own human effort?"
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November 14th, 2012, 09:02 PM

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Is the God that you worship a person or an essence?
A single being, who can present Himself to us however He sees fit.





James 3:17
But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

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So do you pray to three persons?
"After this manner therefore pray: Our Father who is in heaven, hallowed be your name.

Your kingdom come. Your will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, forever. Amen" (Matthew 6:9-13)




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November 14th, 2012, 09:18 PM

I pray to the father who is a spirit.
He is the only true God. Jesus told me that and I believe him.





Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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November 14th, 2012, 09:40 PM

Drunk Skelton,

The Description of a person is throughout the Bible.

If you want an accurate description of God the Father read Rev 4:3

Revelation 4:3

And the one seated on it was like jasper and carnelian in appearance,

and a rainbow looking like it was made of emerald encircled the throne.





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November 14th, 2012, 10:24 PM

Hi,

When i was young I only knew mother but not very well and hardly knew my father at all.

Now I talk to my Mother about many things and He to me, but when I am in my Fathers presence I have to be careful what I say to my Father.

Most believers do not know who they are praying to, especially those who think God has three heads.

Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

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November 14th, 2012, 10:31 PM

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Three Persons, one essence.



   
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