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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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November 29th, 2012, 11:33 AM
Pat Robertson is an old earther?
So is God
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips
.....O LORD my God, in You I put my trust. Psalm 7:1
.....To You, O LORD, I lift up my soul. Psalm 25:1
Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around. ~ Leo Buscaglia
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"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money" - Margaret Thatcher
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November 29th, 2012, 01:22 PM
It looks like he is confused, like a lot of Christians are as to what is science and what is philosophy. If it doesn’t support the Biblical account of creation, then it isn’t science, it is philosophy.
It looks like he is confused, like a lot of Christians are as to what is science and what is philosophy. If it doesn’t support the Biblical account of creation, then it isn’t science, it is philosophy.
It looks like he is confused, like a lot of Christians are as to what is science and what is philosophy. If it doesn’t support the Biblical account of creation, then it isn’t science, it is philosophy.
Faith, by definition, deals only with things that are not seen (2 Cor 4:18, Heb 11:1) while science, by definition, deals only with what we can see or observe with physical instruments. If faith could be proven by science, faith would no longer be faith--it would be knowledge (Rom 8:24). Then, rather than being saved by our faith, we could be saved by our knowledge. Faith is not knowledge, and knowledge is not faith. Science is knowledge. 2 Corinthians 5:7 says that "we walk by faith, not by sight". Science and faith appear to be mutually exclusive.
Skepticism and humility are essential tools in the process of true scientific investigation. Personal bias must be set aside because bias can alter one's perceptions. True scientists must not only be prepared to doubt, question, and test the claims of others, but they must doubt, question, and test their own assumptions as well, and be prepared to accept outcomes that do not conform to their predisposed expectations.
These essential traits of the true scientific investigator, skepticism and humility, are non-existent in the mindset of the fundamentalist. Fundamentalism replaces skepticism and humility with faith and arrogance. Fundamentalists appeal to authority (scripture) in order to define their beliefs about creationism. The scientific method gets replaced with "God said it, I believe it, and that settles it!" Outcomes of scientific testing that do not conform to the fundamentalist's belief system tend to be simply ignored or denied. This is why creationism leads to poor science.
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“Theist and atheist: The fight between them is as to whether God shall be called God or shall have some other name” S.B.
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November 29th, 2012, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by I aint no monkey
If it doesn’t support the Biblical account of creation, then it isn’t science, it is philosophy.
You have that exactly backwards.
Define "science"
God is not discoverable or demonstrable by purely scientific means, unfortunately for the scientifically minded. But that really proves nothing. It simply means that the wrong instruments are being used for the job. ~John Bertram Phillips